Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 - Pennz equivalent?

[Jetronic]

What's the pennzoil equivalent of the current Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 (PurePlus technology)?

I'm specifically looking for an oil analysis, wondering if they are using a calcium/magnesium blend.

 

[LubeLuke]

Pennzoil 5w-40............

 

[Quattro Pete]

Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w40.

 

[Jetronic]

Cheers!

 

[Hessam]

does RT6 use the same basetock as helix ultra?

 

[SR5]

From a previous thread

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SR5

The newer GTL stuff has a higher HTHS (3.88). Do you have a link to the GTL PDS?

Pennzoil Ultra (now called Platinum Euro) pds when GTL was introduced, it is rebadged Shell Helix Ultra:
Pennzoil/Shell Ultra GTL


HTHS of 3.88 cP
Noack of 6.8 %
API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40, Ferrari & Maserati approved

I'm running some in my car right now.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SR5
From a previous thread

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SR5

The newer GTL stuff has a higher HTHS (3.88). Do you have a link to the GTL PDS?

Pennzoil Ultra (now called Platinum Euro) pds when GTL was introduced, it is rebadged Shell Helix Ultra:
Pennzoil/Shell Ultra GTL


HTHS of 3.88 cP
Noack of 6.8 %
API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40, Ferrari & Maserati approved

I'm running some in my car right now.

Specs for the current Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 are different though:

http://www.epc.shell.com/documentRetrieve.asp?documentId=120746362

 

[Jetronic]

indeed they are

215°C vs 242°C flashpoint is the main difference....

Ideally I want a full fat 5w-30 or 0w-30 229.5 oil, but they're getting harder to find. Valvoline synpower 5w-30 is still whole though...

So the Shell is my second choice, the 5w-30 version has both a higher pour point and a 215°C flash point, I'm not sure this is a GTL oil.

 

[Jetronic]

RETRACTION: I found a NEW pds and the 5w30 with pureplus technology has a -48°C pour point and 244°C flash point. A bit thinner at 100°C but also thicker at 40°C. Must be because of less VII use.

I found my new goto oil I think...

 

[SR5]

And just to have them all in one place, I believe this is the very old non-GTL SHU 5W-40 PDS

non-GTL SHU 5W40

 

[SR5]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: SR5
From a previous thread

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SR5

The newer GTL stuff has a higher HTHS (3.88). Do you have a link to the GTL PDS?

Pennzoil Ultra (now called Platinum Euro) pds when GTL was introduced, it is rebadged Shell Helix Ultra:
Pennzoil/Shell Ultra GTL


HTHS of 3.88 cP
Noack of 6.8 %
API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40, Ferrari & Maserati approved

I'm running some in my car right now.

Specs for the current Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 are different though:

http://www.epc.shell.com/documentRetrieve.asp?documentId=120746362


Hmmmm….. it looks more similar than different to me.
Assuming you have the new GTL spec, I have the old GTL spec, and previously I linked to the very old non-GTL spec above. You get

Spec # non-GTL # Old-GTL # New-GTL
Vis 40C # 74.4 # 80.7 # 80.8
Vis 100C # 13.1 # 13.2 # 13.3
Flash Point # 215C # 215.6C # 215C
Pour Point # -39C # -45C # - 45C
HTHS # 3.68 # 3.88 # NA
Noack # NA # 6.8 # NA
CCS # NA # 6200 # 6300
Density # 0.840 # 0.848 # 0.848

Not fighting, just saying what I have been told by others and looking at the figures, sort of works for me.