Selling off property question and problem.

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Many years ago my dad bought the lot on the East side of the lot my house is on. I inherited both properties when my parents passed.


The lot to my east had power and a small cabin. But no water or septic.

The cabin blew down about 15 years ago so now it's just a vacant lot.

It has a very nice view.... Better than mine as it's much higher than where my house is.

The reason dad bought it was because the only road to it is through my property and basically right past my porch.

Due to the terrain adding another way in is not feasible.

I'd like to sell it but don't want cars rattling by my window all night long. Those cars would have to use my gate. And I don't really want neighbors that close.

We always planned on keeping it for both the lack of having neighbors that close as well as the small amount of valuable minerals that can be found on the empty lot.

But extracting those minerals would be a big operation,govt red tape etc. Not something I want to get into.

Our (her) plan for the lot is to make a petting zoo and charge admission.

Keep and enjoy the quiet or sell and deal with people, noise etc?
 
Chris, you chose to live at a remote location for the benefits of tranquility and space away from the public. If you still value those attributes for your homestead, I would not sell the adjacent lot unless forced to do so due to financial hardship. Real estate will continue to appreciate in CA and perhaps your priorities will change in several years.
 
What size is the property?

As I've gotten older, I desire peace and quiet more than anything. Or more accurately, when it is time to relax from my Type-A fuel burning lifestyle, I want the peacefulness of distance between me and my neighbors.

The chaos that is humanity, has become difficult to tolerate. My Jupiter Farms, FL property has a public easement that was the source of some real problems. In the end, it led to a violent confrontation that nearly got me killed. The idea that things won't go sideways in a hurry is likely to be in error.
 
A petting zoo? I live a nice quiet life in suburbia in a little development with nice neighbors and deer and fox and bunnies. You live out in the desert in a secluded area with limited economic opportunities that you adore and you're thinking about a dramatic shift to having people and animals to care for and feed and coyotes and whatever else is out your way looking to eat said animals. I don't know how your much house and lots are worth, but I'd advise you to simplify things, not make them more complicated.
 
Just another thought. I'm looking to retire in TN. One big problem is that too many people build their house on large lots, like 50+ acres, yet position the home 45 feet from the main road. I'd place the house in the middle of the acreage given the choice.

This is especially strange to me when the house is both close to the road, and the road is a hill. Noisy trucks bellowing up the climb all day and night. WHY do that???
 
You already know the answer. You live there because you don't want to deal with people. Once you give a right of way and sell it you lose control of what happens.

Maybe put a modular on the nicer high ground and sell the property you're in now? You'd still have people nearer but you'd be the one driving by the house.
 
A petting zoo? I live a nice quiet life in suburbia in a little development with nice neighbors and deer and fox and bunnies. You live out in the desert in a secluded area with limited economic opportunities that you adore and you're thinking about a dramatic shift to having people and animals to care for and feed and coyotes and whatever else is out your way looking to eat said animals. I don't know how your much house and lots are worth, but I'd advise you to simplify things, not make them more complicated.
That's why she has not gotten those animals yet....
 
Hmm, I'd find a fun use for that land, such as: go kart race track, dig really deep until I was bored, start collecting junk.
DM details. ;)
 
This what's on the property. That's 50 years of me panning lol

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Many years ago my dad bought the lot on the East side of the lot my house is on. I inherited both properties when my parents passed.


The lot to my east had power and a small cabin. But no water or septic.

The cabin blew down about 15 years ago so now it's just a vacant lot.

It has a very nice view.... Better than mine as it's much higher than where my house is.

The reason dad bought it was because the only road to it is through my property and basically right past my porch.

Due to the terrain adding another way in is not feasible.

I'd like to sell it but don't want cars rattling by my window all night long. Those cars would have to use my gate. And I don't really want neighbors that close.

We always planned on keeping it for both the lack of having neighbors that close as well as the small amount of valuable minerals that can be found on the empty lot.

But extracting those minerals would be a big operation,govt red tape etc. Not something I want to get into.

Our (her) plan for the lot is to make a petting zoo and charge admission.

Keep and enjoy the quiet or sell and deal with people, noise etc?

Without access to the lot who would buy it? Does your property have a recorded easement allowing access? What if you sold both your house and the adjacent lot and moved?

Petting zoo? Where would people park?
 
Just another thought. I'm looking to retire in TN. One big problem is that too many people build their house on large lots, like 50+ acres, yet position the home 45 feet from the main road. I'd place the house in the middle of the acreage given the choice.

This is especially strange to me when the house is both close to the road, and the road is a hill. Noisy trucks bellowing up the climb all day and night. WHY do that???
Price the cost of running utilities, cutting timber to build the site and drive.
 
Without access to the lot who would buy it? Does your property have a recorded easement allowing access? What if you sold both your house and the adjacent lot and moved?

Petting zoo? Where would people park?
Yes there is easements around every property in my area. My road leading to my house is not on an easement as the area where the easement is isn't a good place to put a road.

She's already been clearing brush for a small parking lot lol.
 
I think a petting zoo will become an around-the-clock job, and with all the regulations you'll have to comply with, will never draw enough visitors to turn a profit.

You're in SoCal, and they love their regulations. I'd seriously consider talking to an Attorney familiar with property compliance concerns.
For example: Is there a potential to effect some animal that is considered an endangered species?
Are you ready to comply with ADA regulations?
Are they going to fine you for making 'improvements' to your own property, if you do so without a permit?
The list goes on.

I'd just make sure you know what you would be in for, before doing anything to alter the property.
 
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