Sear/Kmart to shut 120 stores

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
It's just laughable how many Walmart apologists we have, almost implying that Walmart is doing us a favor by existing.


Who in this thread said that Walmart is doing us a favor by existing, or "almost implying" it?

I think that, to a true Walmart hater, anyone that doesn't share their hatred for the store necessarily must love the place. That's not necessarily so. One can recognize a store's physical merits without having any emotional attachment to it. That you said that some folks are "almost implying" something tells me that you're likely reading more into the post than what's really there. I suspect it was my post you were reading too much into, and if it was indeed my post, then I know you were reading too much into it.

Not you specifically. There's always someone looking through rose-colored glasses saying how they get everything they want at wal-mart, at such great prices and such wonderful stores.

I can't think of a worse shopping experience at wal-mart. Yes, indeed, I go there, and I do so because they have the best oil selection, better than even the biggest auto parts stores around. It is the worst shopping experience between the lines, staff and shoppers there.

And if you do not recognize the effect/issues on the local community, there is another blind eye. Listen to the video posted previously.

Ive said it in other places, but Ill say it again, I wonder how many bleeding heart patriotic union employees shop at wal-mart, just setting up the situation for their or their brothers' jobs to be offshored.

 

[Rock_Hudstone]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I can't think of a worse shopping experience at wal-mart. Yes, indeed, I go there, and I do so because they have the best oil selection, better than even the biggest auto parts stores around. It is the worst shopping experience between the lines, staff and shoppers there.


Depends on which store and what time of day you visit.

The WM by me is definetly one of their better stores although sometimes I see shoppers there that leave me shaking my head wondering; where the heck do these people come from??

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I can't think of a worse shopping experience at wal-mart. Yes, indeed, I go there, and I do so because they have the best oil selection, better than even the biggest auto parts stores around. It is the worst shopping experience between the lines, staff and shoppers there.


Depends on which store and what time of day you visit.

The WM by me is definetly one of their better stores although sometimes I see shoppers there that leave me shaking my head wondering; where the heck do these people come from??

See: peopleofwalmart.com

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I can't think of a worse shopping experience at wal-mart. Yes, indeed, I go there, and I do so because they have the best oil selection, better than even the biggest auto parts stores around. It is the worst shopping experience between the lines, staff and shoppers there.


This mystifies me. Both of the WM's near me have utterly LOUSY oil selection. Pricing seems good, but they lack anything outside of 'normal' choices.

But I hate to shop there, and it is getting worse. The parking lot has some of the scariest folks you've never met.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
.... Who in this thread said that Walmart is doing us a favor by existing, or "almost implying" it?

I think that, to a true Walmart hater, anyone that doesn't share their hatred for the store necessarily must love the place. That's not necessarily so. One can recognize a store's physical merits without having any emotional attachment to it. That you said that some folks are "almost implying" something tells me that you're likely reading more into the post than what's really there. I suspect it was my post you were reading too much into, and if it was indeed my post, then I know you were reading too much into it.

Good post. It's curious but not surprising that immediately after the OP's post, this thread was quickly taking off topic by an obvious Walmart hater to advance the anti Walmart agenda. And now anyone that shops at Wally is a "Wally apologist". Just to add to the list of apoligist's like the Honda apologists etc. IMO, the best thing to do when this occurs, is just ignore it and not respond directly, as doing so just feeds the agenda, as proven again by the responses.

As said by another poster here: "Walmart is not doing Sears in, Sears is doing Sears in."

 

[fdcg27]

Yep.
You don't have to love Walmart to shop there.
Where else could I have gotten all that FAR G-Oil or Ultra?
You have to be able to find the product at a decent price to make an MIR work, and the fact that Walmart had both oils priced right is a plus for Walmart, but does not indicate that I love the stores.
OTOH, our nearest Sears has a boatload of Syntec 5W-50 SJ, still on the shelf at regular price.
Sears and Kmart both suffer for having tried to be all things to all men.
Kmart is probably still influenced by its SS Kresgee roots, while Sears is probably still influenced by its days as a catalog seller, with a catalog offering just about everything you could imagine, including Sears house kits and Sears cars.
Kmart is also hurt by the introduction of things like appliances, which only take up space in already cluttered stores.
The result is a limited selection in each category, with the category killers eating Sears/Kmart's lunch.
If you want clothes, you go to Kohls or Penny's, if you want elctronics or appliances, you check out hh gregg and Best Buy.
If you need tires, there are plenty of dedicated tire stores to price, using a quote from an online tire seller as a bargaining chip.
Sears and Kmart need a more focused retail model to survive.
I can't see either chain surviving with their current model.

 

[xxch4osxx]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Indeed. Walmart was not part of my Chinese-free Christmas initiative. We shopped local and bought stuff from first-world nations as a family.
I refuse to step foot in any Walmart for any reason! I will pay more to shop at a family owned store than support Walmart.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

I went into a Sears a few months ago. I noticed that almost every young person employed there was spending time on their hand held iPhone, Android, etc. When you looked at the cash registers, they were not manned.

There were clusters of employees gathered in conversation not paying attention to the floor.

I didn't think the merchandise was particularly unattractive or or overpriced. I did think there was a void where management was concerned.

As I left through the appliance section, there were two of the older employees (both Middle Eastern) wishing me a good evening. I asked them why they weren't on their phones as most of the other employees were? They smiled and shrugged.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

BTW, when the hedge fund manager bought Sears/Kmart, it was thought it had a lot of unrealized value in its real estate. We know what happened to real estate.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: GROUCHO MARX
I went into a Sears a few months ago. I noticed that almost every young person employed there was spending time on their hand held iPhone, Android, etc.


There's a kid at my tire store who does the same thing, but half hidden in a drawer of his GIANT toolbox. Yeah, you need a bottom drawer fit for a coffin when you're ripping out valve stems all day.

 

[civic09]

I will choose my words very carefully here. I go to the one BIG K MART, which is about 12 miles from me. It is beside a GANDER MOUNTAIN store, and the K MART had a upgrade/facelift. It is doing well also since I have been living in my area for over 12 yrs. I usually get 2-4 gift cards to sears/k mart, so I use some of that towards groceries. Rarely does the BIG K MART have anything other than meat/pork products and PYB/QSGB oil marked down or on sale also. The store is neat and clean, and the staff is kind and helpful. The 3 walmarts near me; only one has every oil choice a person could want and is very well stocked up. The other 2 dont even have Valvoline NEXGEN or MAXLIFE at all. Depends on youre area I guess. I am satisfied with the BIG K MART in my area though.


adam

 

[AuthorEditor]

There a list up of 79 of the stores that will close--none I use regularly.

Stores closing.

 

[Rock_Hudstone]

Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
I refuse to step foot in any Walmart for any reason! I will pay more to shop at a family owned store than support Walmart.


Not me boy, I want the lowest price and no questions asked returns. Whomever delivers that gets my business.

I don't like buying foreign made products but thats the way things are unfortunately.

 

[91344George]

Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
I refuse to step foot in any Walmart for any reason! I will pay more to shop at a family owned store than support Walmart.


Not me boy, I want the lowest price and no questions asked returns. Whomever delivers that gets my business.

I don't like buying foreign made products but thats the way things are unfortunately.


But a LOT of the time the "lowest price" at Wal Mart is because the product is "specially made" for them which usually means even worse quality and durability than the main line product, not to mention that many "durable" items like that sold at China Mart have almost NO warranty at all or a greatly reduced one. So in the end you'll end up paying twice for that item.

Oh, did I mention that many times the prices at China Mart are either about the same as the competition or a bit more expensive! But Wallyworld marketing has repeated their lies so many times you will believe it.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: 91344George
Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
I refuse to step foot in any Walmart for any reason! I will pay more to shop at a family owned store than support Walmart.


Not me boy, I want the lowest price and no questions asked returns. Whomever delivers that gets my business.

I don't like buying foreign made products but thats the way things are unfortunately.


But a LOT of the time the "lowest price" at Wal Mart is because the product is "specially made" for them which usually means even worse quality and durability than the main line product, not to mention that many "durable" items like that sold at China Mart have almost NO warranty at all or a greatly reduced one. So in the end you'll end up paying twice for that item.

Oh, did I mention that many times the prices at China Mart are either about the same as the competition or a bit more expensive! But Wallyworld marketing has repeated their lies so many times you will believe it.

Blinded by the wal-mart lights!

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: sayjac
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
.... Who in this thread said that Walmart is doing us a favor by existing, or "almost implying" it?

I think that, to a true Walmart hater, anyone that doesn't share their hatred for the store necessarily must love the place. That's not necessarily so. One can recognize a store's physical merits without having any emotional attachment to it. That you said that some folks are "almost implying" something tells me that you're likely reading more into the post than what's really there. I suspect it was my post you were reading too much into, and if it was indeed my post, then I know you were reading too much into it.

Good post. It's curious but not surprising that immediately after the OP's post, this thread was quickly taking off topic by an obvious Walmart hater to advance the anti Walmart agenda. And now anyone that shops at Wally is a "Wally apologist". Just to add to the list of apoligist's like the Honda apologists etc. IMO, the best thing to do when this occurs, is just ignore it and not respond directly, as doing so just feeds the agenda, as proven again by the responses.


Whatever. Obviously you're unwilling to look at any side other than your best deal, as millions of US jobs get shipped out overseas, lots of Americans' lives ruined, for what, a better "deal" on a price-point Chinese widget?

Im not concerned, my job wont go overseas. But I HATE to see it happen to the small-town shops, my fellow countrymen, etc.

Agenda?!? YEAH, if that is an "agenda" then so be it. At least Im willing to try to put my dollars into action for keeping US jobs here.

For the record, I do go to WM when I need to. As I do Kmart and to a lesser extent Target. At least at the latter two, I routinely see the same people working there. They may all be box stores that harm the community, but if you think that somehow WM does nothing but help the community/country, youre only looking at the situation from one side.

Yeah, agenda. Right.

 

[91344George]

@JHZR2: But there must be something wrong with us "dissenters " because we refuse to think that CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP things are ALWAYS GOOD for the consumer!

I find it equally amusing that there are a number of "members" here that insist that China is not a state that enslaves its citizens and doesn't severely persecute them if they speak out against it publically. LOL

Never did like the taste of controlled media kool aide.

The Globalists will NEVAR win! We need to keep reproducing so many off spring and teaching them about reality so that the long term planning/acting criminal cabal can't realize their desire to enslave the worlds peoples. Not only in a few decades but NEVER.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
For the record, I do go to WM when I need to. As I do Kmart and to a lesser extent Target. At least at the latter two, I routinely see the same people working there. They may all be box stores that harm the community, but if you think that somehow WM does nothing but help the community/country, youre only looking at the situation from one side.


Again, who said that Walmart "does nothing but help the community/country"? You seem to be putting words in folks' mouths here, and I'm not sure why. I don't recall anyone saying that.

I do think it's curious that you shop at Walmart, and at Kmart and Target. As you said, they're all big box stores. And as you said earlier, Walmart often does have a fine selection of oil at a good price. So what makes it okay for you to buy oil there, but anyone else who shops at Walmart is drinking the Kool Aid?

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
So what makes it okay for you to buy oil there, but anyone else who shops at Walmart is drinking the Kool Aid?


Actually, I shouldn't have said "Kool Aid"...George used that term, not you.

But still, and in seriousness...you said you "go to WM when [you] need to". How is you going to Walmart when you need to any different from anyone else going to Walmart when they "need" to? And in just the previous sentence, you said that you're putting your dollars into action to save US jobs...but I thought shopping at Walmart is counter to that??

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
...Again, who said that Walmart "does nothing but help the community/country"? You seem to be putting words in folks' mouths here, and I'm not sure why. I don't recall anyone saying that...

I know I certainly didn't. And, until my previous post, unlike the anti Walmart agenda leader, my comments here were on topic(Sears/Kmart). Similar stereotyping of other posters with a somewhat different view has occured on other topics too. It's happened regarding Honda vehicles, it's happened regarding automatic transmissions and other topics. Other posters have noted it and commented similarly. It's just occuring more frequently here now on a variety of topics, with one of the latest smart a responses to other posters here being, 'you're wasting bandwidth'. Really?

As I said, I generally just observe these occurences and note the similarity over a variety of topics. I find it does little good to attempt to have a explain a different position, as has once again been proven here. Sometimes it's just best to ignore the board bully, and let him spew his venom.

That said, I find your last two posts spot on. Also, not sure how someone that promoted the idea that the major's oil sold at Wally is inferior to that sold at other retail outlets, could purchase oil there. Tin foil hats anyone?