Scneario: You get stuck

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Originally Posted By: Run
Apply brake while slowly giving it gas. Sounds counterproductive but might just limit the loss and help the tire with traction. I have done this on a F250 that was in some slick mud. However I'm not sure what type of differential is in it.


That will work sometimes, if not I'll combine that with turning the steering wheel side to side.

Now I can't wait to try 4L and locking the front and rear axles.
 
If it was really that bad I'd pull the boot carpet, use my key to puncture it so I could tear it in half then take my shoe laces and tie each half to the towing eye, then put the halves under my drive-wheels and go on with the rest of my journey.

Winter wheels and summer wheels with appropriate rubber mean I've been lucky enough to never encounter this particular situation - however one previous Golf I owned used to get stuck quite regularly on speed bumps.
 
Call BRZED, he'll know what to do....
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I got stuck in two snow drifts before.....

I was able to rock the car about 3" or so, so I kept digging, rocking....


...after half a hour of rocking and digging I got out with only a overheated engine and burnt transmission fluid....

A tow truck would have been cheaper!
 
Raize the.vehicle with the high lift, until it clears the rut, then push it over and let it fall off the jack. Repeat with the front. Now you are out of your rut. Stop driving like an arse
 
Knowing how to drive helps a lot. If someone is stuck and hasn't dug their tires in too deep I can generally get their vehicle out - though not out of a ditch of course. You also have to know when to quit.

If you're dealing with mud you maintain momentum by using a bit of wheelspin as necessary. Or as the Premier of Saskatchewan once said, "Never yell 'Whoa!' in a mudhole." Warming your tires a bit doesn't hurt their traction in mud. In fact if you have traction control, when dealing with mud, you are sometimes better off turning it off so you can maintain a bit of wheelspin.

If you're dealing with snow you avoid wheelspin at all costs. Warm tires don't go in snow.

If you end up stopped, you rock the vehicle back and forth, applying a bit of gas in whichever direction you intend to go, letting it rock back by itself.

If all else fails you apply a tiny bit of emergency brake (assuming the emergency brake is on the powered wheels). That diverts a bit of torque to the non-spinning wheel.

Using these strategies I've only ever needed a tow truck twice (in 51 years of driving) and that was because I had spun on ice and ended up in the ditch.
 
Applying the brake probably won't do much, since now all four wheels will be effectively "stuck."

However, if your parking, or emergency brake acts on the driven wheels, applying it can provide more torque to the free spinning wheel.
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: BRZED
Originally Posted By: Run
Apply brake while slowly giving it gas. Sounds counterproductive but might just limit the loss and help the tire with traction. I have done this on a F250 that was in some slick mud. However I'm not sure what type of differential is in it.


Actually, what you do is floor the gas and apply the brakes until the freely spinning wheels is being slowed down and the wheel with grip gets power. That should be enough to get the car going either forward or backward.


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LOL I can't believe nobody else awknowledged your post.

GHT's Volvo snow stuck experience was an epic one.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
GHT's Volvo snow stuck experience was an epic one.


Is there a thread on this?

Originally Posted By: BRZED
Actually, what you do is floor the gas and apply the brakes until the freely spinning wheels is being slowed down and the wheel with grip gets power. That should be enough to get the car going either forward or backward.


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Originally Posted By: BRZED
Applying the brake will let you control to a degree how much power goes to the wheel with grip. Obviously you can't do this for a prolonged effort, or you will overheat a brake and maybe cause other damage, but it's a neat trick that often works.


No, it won't, especially in your hypothetical 2wd example. The stopped wheels will have the coefficient of stopped friction which is higher than sliding friction. If it doesn't want to break free without brakes it won't with some brake. Not to mention the other axle also being braked.
 
Regret leaving awd world and purchase another Awd vehicle.

In 25 years car ownership I have only had one FWD and had a few regrets when stuck in a muddy field or wintery day. I went right back to awd.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: BRZED
Applying the brake will let you control to a degree how much power goes to the wheel with grip. Obviously you can't do this for a prolonged effort, or you will overheat a brake and maybe cause other damage, but it's a neat trick that often works.


No, it won't, especially in your hypothetical 2wd example. The stopped wheels will have the coefficient of stopped friction which is higher than sliding friction. If it doesn't want to break free without brakes it won't with some brake. Not to mention the other axle also being braked.


You are not doing it right in your hypothetical scenario. You are not supposed to brake to the point where the wheels lock. You are supposed to brake until the freely spinning wheel slows down and power is diverted to the wheel that has traction. You don't want a fast spinning wheel anyway. You are at or near full throttle and adjust wheel speed with the brake. I've done it, so I know it works.
 
Originally Posted By: BRZED

You are not doing it right in your hypothetical scenario. You are not supposed to brake to the point where the wheels lock. You are supposed to brake until the freely spinning wheel slows down and power is diverted to the wheel that has traction. You don't want a fast spinning wheel anyway. You are at or near full throttle and adjust wheel speed with the brake. I've done it, so I know it works.


Assuming it's a RWD vehicle, are you better off using your parking brake over the regular brake?
 
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