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Originally Posted By: HiPowerShooter
HI all...
I'm thinking of giving Schaeffer 20/50 in my MGB for the next oil change. As a bonus, it contains elevated levels of ZDDP specifically for flat tappet(as with an MG) engines. I don't want to get into the whole "there's no need for extra after break-in" debate. I understand that.
My machine shop owner/engine builder is a huge fan of it. Runs it in all his engines. Anyone have any experience and/or results with it?
Thanks!
If it rings your bells, go for it.
But have you also considered switching to any of the 15w-40 HDEO's like Rotella of Delvac?
Was your car fitted with an Air to Oil oil cooler? Is it still attached?
HI all...
I'm thinking of giving Schaeffer 20/50 in my MGB for the next oil change. As a bonus, it contains elevated levels of ZDDP specifically for flat tappet(as with an MG) engines. I don't want to get into the whole "there's no need for extra after break-in" debate. I understand that.
My machine shop owner/engine builder is a huge fan of it. Runs it in all his engines. Anyone have any experience and/or results with it?
Thanks!
If it rings your bells, go for it.
But have you also considered switching to any of the 15w-40 HDEO's like Rotella of Delvac?
Was your car fitted with an Air to Oil oil cooler? Is it still attached?
Thanks for the replies so far.
Yes...this MGB is a lot of fun to drive. As mentioned, not fast (80BHP)but fun, economical(around 28mpg), and so far very dependable(Lucas...Prince of Darkness has been held at bay so far).
I found the car in a shed, but after 8 years I put a battery in it to see if the motor would turn over and it actually STARTED on that old gas. It didn't even cross my mind that it would. Anyhow, after replacing all the hydraulics, building a new head up and rebuilding the dual HIF's...it runs like a champ. Looks good as well. The previous owner owned it since new and cared for it very well.
I actually went back to the shop to drop off some parts for another head he's building and bought the oil. Like I said, he's sworn by it for 40 years. Breaks in every HiPo race engine with the 30w and runs 50w in the short track engines. He gave me a bottle of the moly and said to use 1/2 in each of my other Subarus as well.
I bought 6 quarts of the 20/50 7000 for $40. I'll use it when I change the oil before I put it to bed for the winter around Thanksgiving.
Oh...I've never used Rotella in it, but have used "Mystic" 15/40 with good results last year. It does still have it's oil cooler attached. I see 70/50(at speed/idle)lbs of pressure hot, and 75/60 cold at idle.
Love the discussion...
Yes...this MGB is a lot of fun to drive. As mentioned, not fast (80BHP)but fun, economical(around 28mpg), and so far very dependable(Lucas...Prince of Darkness has been held at bay so far).
I found the car in a shed, but after 8 years I put a battery in it to see if the motor would turn over and it actually STARTED on that old gas. It didn't even cross my mind that it would. Anyhow, after replacing all the hydraulics, building a new head up and rebuilding the dual HIF's...it runs like a champ. Looks good as well. The previous owner owned it since new and cared for it very well.
I actually went back to the shop to drop off some parts for another head he's building and bought the oil. Like I said, he's sworn by it for 40 years. Breaks in every HiPo race engine with the 30w and runs 50w in the short track engines. He gave me a bottle of the moly and said to use 1/2 in each of my other Subarus as well.
I bought 6 quarts of the 20/50 7000 for $40. I'll use it when I change the oil before I put it to bed for the winter around Thanksgiving.
Oh...I've never used Rotella in it, but have used "Mystic" 15/40 with good results last year. It does still have it's oil cooler attached. I see 70/50(at speed/idle)lbs of pressure hot, and 75/60 cold at idle.
Love the discussion...
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28mpg.
My 2006 charger RT has had tanks burn at over 30mpg on the highway. More typical is 27mpg though.
And it's got 340hp/400tq
The only thing it's missing is a clutch however the 5 speed auto shifts like lightning and is a nag piece.
My 2006 charger RT has had tanks burn at over 30mpg on the highway. More typical is 27mpg though.
And it's got 340hp/400tq
The only thing it's missing is a clutch however the 5 speed auto shifts like lightning and is a nag piece.
Originally Posted By: Clevy
28mpg.
My 2006 charger RT has had tanks burn at over 30mpg on the highway. More typical is 27mpg though.
And it's got 340hp/400tq
The only thing it's missing is a clutch however the 5 speed auto shifts like lightning and is a nag piece.
Apples and Oranges...It's a 41 year old dual carb points(yeah...points)driven British car with wing windows and three wipers.
28mpg.
My 2006 charger RT has had tanks burn at over 30mpg on the highway. More typical is 27mpg though.
And it's got 340hp/400tq
The only thing it's missing is a clutch however the 5 speed auto shifts like lightning and is a nag piece.
Apples and Oranges...It's a 41 year old dual carb points(yeah...points)driven British car with wing windows and three wipers.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
What oil are you running in the carbs ?
I experimented with everything from ATF to STP when I had triples on my Holdens...changing the dashpot oil can change drivability amazingly.
The MGB is an easy car to maintain. The manual states to use 20/50 in the engine, transmission, and dashpots. I do use the 20/50 during the summer, then switch to ATF in cooler months. Keeps the mixture from leaning out.
What oil are you running in the carbs ?
I experimented with everything from ATF to STP when I had triples on my Holdens...changing the dashpot oil can change drivability amazingly.
The MGB is an easy car to maintain. The manual states to use 20/50 in the engine, transmission, and dashpots. I do use the 20/50 during the summer, then switch to ATF in cooler months. Keeps the mixture from leaning out.
Originally Posted By: HiPowerShooter
Originally Posted By: Shannow
What oil are you running in the carbs ?
I experimented with everything from ATF to STP when I had triples on my Holdens...changing the dashpot oil can change drivability amazingly.
The MGB is an easy car to maintain. The manual states to use 20/50 in the engine, transmission, and dashpots. I do use the 20/50 during the summer, then switch to ATF in cooler months. Keeps the mixture from leaning out.
I have a friend with an MGB and thought I remembered him saying everything called for 20w50.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
What oil are you running in the carbs ?
I experimented with everything from ATF to STP when I had triples on my Holdens...changing the dashpot oil can change drivability amazingly.
The MGB is an easy car to maintain. The manual states to use 20/50 in the engine, transmission, and dashpots. I do use the 20/50 during the summer, then switch to ATF in cooler months. Keeps the mixture from leaning out.
I have a friend with an MGB and thought I remembered him saying everything called for 20w50.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
And yet these major companies sought to buy the little exotics.
Schaeffer is on par with Amsoil. They might be small, but make truly superior lubricants.
I'm off to McDonald's now. With so many locations, solid profitability, and over 80 billion served,,their food has to be the best you can get.
LMAO!
And yet these major companies sought to buy the little exotics.
Schaeffer is on par with Amsoil. They might be small, but make truly superior lubricants.
I'm off to McDonald's now. With so many locations, solid profitability, and over 80 billion served,,their food has to be the best you can get.
LMAO!
Originally Posted By: expat
I think you might have that reasoning the wrong way around.
The oil in the carburetor dash pots acts as a medium for a damper. It Slows the rise of the piston (and metering needle) in the SU during a sudden opening of the throttle.
To act as a kind of acceleration pump.
By slowing the rise of the piston, the choke size is momentarily restricted and the air flow across the venturi is therefore faster.
faster airflow = lower pressure over the jet, resulting in an increase of fuel being drawn into the airstream.
expat, that's it.
The Strombergs fitted to the Oz XU-1 Toranas *think Vauxhaul Viva, with an extra foot welded in and a 3.3 L 6 with wild cam, and three carbs), they ran dry, not oil.
I ran S.U.s and oil...the STP gave an interesting strong kick, then a long slow power increase...ran sae30 most of the time.
I think you might have that reasoning the wrong way around.
The oil in the carburetor dash pots acts as a medium for a damper. It Slows the rise of the piston (and metering needle) in the SU during a sudden opening of the throttle.
To act as a kind of acceleration pump.
By slowing the rise of the piston, the choke size is momentarily restricted and the air flow across the venturi is therefore faster.
faster airflow = lower pressure over the jet, resulting in an increase of fuel being drawn into the airstream.
expat, that's it.
The Strombergs fitted to the Oz XU-1 Toranas *think Vauxhaul Viva, with an extra foot welded in and a 3.3 L 6 with wild cam, and three carbs), they ran dry, not oil.
I ran S.U.s and oil...the STP gave an interesting strong kick, then a long slow power increase...ran sae30 most of the time.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Of course, they help with company image. That was Ford's whole purpose with the "Premier Auto Group". It certainly wasn't to make money.
You mean, it didn't turn out that way.
The purpose of the PAG was an acknowledgement that the Lincoln brand was in no way, shape, or form, ever going to achieve the levels of prestige of AML, LR, or Jag. Prestige is important, because if nobody looks at your vehicles and wants to pay a premium price for them, then you'll never get your money back on investing a ton into refining it to compete against cars that already have all that you are seeking to compete against.
As a multiple Lincoln owner of 16 years, I will give you my assurances that Ford/Lincoln does not have the capability to build something in the luxury arena that anyone would pay that kind of money for, and never will.
None of those other base companies will ever have the capability to build something like the companies they bought.
You think anyone would buy a Lambo, Bentley, or Bugatti with a VW badge on the front? It's not possible. Nobody wanted a VW Phaeton until it appeared on the scene with a Bentley badge in its grille.
PAG didn't make money, because Ford was too incompetent to utilize those companies correctly. The Indians who bought LR and Jag have done multitudes better with them than Ford ever did.
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Define "superior". What makes Schaeffer or AMSOIL better than something like Delvac 1? How about M1 0w-40? Mobil (and the others) have a number of premium "top shelf" lubricants. They also make some not so spectacular products, but then so do these small blenders.
Superior, as in lubricants that work with engines and systems that the a lot of big companies don't care about, or have long forgotten. It's one thing I have serious respect for Valvoline for doing. VR-1 is just about the only product coming from the big companies that fits the bill for a serious power street engine, that will survive long term.
Granted, there are some major horsepower players coming out of the factory now that run OTS oils, but they are a far cry from the engines of the past.
I use M1 0w40 in 3 of my vehicles, but there's no way I'm putting that in my boats, Charger, bikes, or anything that really beats on oil.
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McDonalds (and other burger joints) doesn't make a premium product like Mobil 1, Pennzoil Ultra....etc. They are not really comparable to the oil industry. The auto manufacturers are a much better comparison here as they have tiered products.
The other issue is that there are only a few additive suppliers out there as well as only a few manufacturers of base oils. Mobil makes a huge portion of the available base oils (particularly PAO) and they co-own one of the largest additive suppliers (Infineum) with Shell.
This isn't like a premium chef running a small restaurant who is able to source only the best premium free-range beef to use in his steaks. In this case the components used still come from the majors, so it isn't like these small blenders are using "better" base oils than what Mobil, BP or Shell are using, they come from these companies! Same goes for the chemicals (XOM Chemical) and in many cases the additives.
That's not to say these products are inferior. AMSOIL SPECIFICALLY targets the extended drain market and has been extremely successful. Both they and Royal Purple have also embraced the synthetic glass media oil filter phenomenon, something the majors aren't involved in. This creates some nice separation too IMHO.
These companies go after niches. That doesn't mean that the majors don't make products that are just as good for those niches (though AMSOIL's extended drains are the longest in the industry) but perhaps the service and support through these smaller companies is better and more personal. That in itself adds value.
I use AMSOIL products but I don't necessarily feel they are superior to comparable products Mobil offers. What they do have however are some unique products that the majors don't make as well as great service.
Actually, it's exactly like that. While most oil companies only stop to think about making a truly fortified and specialized oil for engines that will get a sump dump after the flag is waved, Schaeffer makes products that will do that, without having to throw it away the same day it is put in the engine.
That is why if you hang around people who build engines for 8 and 9 second street cars, and performance boats, you're not going to hear about sumps being filled with PYB, M1, or anything like it. They just don't cut it, and what is recommended for those engines by those companies is something that is a very temporary fill, or simply incorrect.
Mobil is most guilty of this; recommending their lame 15/50 for a lot of hot rod engines that will shear it to water in no time flat despite their "recommendation" for use with flat tappet and older engines. That's one oil that nobody who knows anything wants to use.
UOA's don't lie. Shear prone engines eat major manufacturer's oils to water where superior regular-use lubes like Amsoil Dominator, Schaeffer's MicronMoly, and yes, even Valvoline's VR1 continue not to notice long after other oils are broken down.
It's not a fault of technology so many companies don't have an equivalent. It's a fault of will.
Of course, this is the part where you will point out that this is a specific example, and does not apply to everything that Schaeffer makes, nor everything that Mobil makes. Then I will remind you that I never said any such thing, and that this is a thread about an old English car and I only said that Schaeffer's makes superior products despite being a smaller oil company. Being specific to the OP's inquiry, the answer is a solid no. Mobil, SOPUS, and pretty much everyone out there at the top besides Valvoline don't make anything even close to the quality and performance of Schaeffer's 20/50. And even then, MicronMoly runs cooler oil temps than VR1 and is likely a superior oil.
Of course, they help with company image. That was Ford's whole purpose with the "Premier Auto Group". It certainly wasn't to make money.
You mean, it didn't turn out that way.
The purpose of the PAG was an acknowledgement that the Lincoln brand was in no way, shape, or form, ever going to achieve the levels of prestige of AML, LR, or Jag. Prestige is important, because if nobody looks at your vehicles and wants to pay a premium price for them, then you'll never get your money back on investing a ton into refining it to compete against cars that already have all that you are seeking to compete against.
As a multiple Lincoln owner of 16 years, I will give you my assurances that Ford/Lincoln does not have the capability to build something in the luxury arena that anyone would pay that kind of money for, and never will.
None of those other base companies will ever have the capability to build something like the companies they bought.
You think anyone would buy a Lambo, Bentley, or Bugatti with a VW badge on the front? It's not possible. Nobody wanted a VW Phaeton until it appeared on the scene with a Bentley badge in its grille.
PAG didn't make money, because Ford was too incompetent to utilize those companies correctly. The Indians who bought LR and Jag have done multitudes better with them than Ford ever did.
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Define "superior". What makes Schaeffer or AMSOIL better than something like Delvac 1? How about M1 0w-40? Mobil (and the others) have a number of premium "top shelf" lubricants. They also make some not so spectacular products, but then so do these small blenders.
Superior, as in lubricants that work with engines and systems that the a lot of big companies don't care about, or have long forgotten. It's one thing I have serious respect for Valvoline for doing. VR-1 is just about the only product coming from the big companies that fits the bill for a serious power street engine, that will survive long term.
Granted, there are some major horsepower players coming out of the factory now that run OTS oils, but they are a far cry from the engines of the past.
I use M1 0w40 in 3 of my vehicles, but there's no way I'm putting that in my boats, Charger, bikes, or anything that really beats on oil.
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McDonalds (and other burger joints) doesn't make a premium product like Mobil 1, Pennzoil Ultra....etc. They are not really comparable to the oil industry. The auto manufacturers are a much better comparison here as they have tiered products.
The other issue is that there are only a few additive suppliers out there as well as only a few manufacturers of base oils. Mobil makes a huge portion of the available base oils (particularly PAO) and they co-own one of the largest additive suppliers (Infineum) with Shell.
This isn't like a premium chef running a small restaurant who is able to source only the best premium free-range beef to use in his steaks. In this case the components used still come from the majors, so it isn't like these small blenders are using "better" base oils than what Mobil, BP or Shell are using, they come from these companies! Same goes for the chemicals (XOM Chemical) and in many cases the additives.
That's not to say these products are inferior. AMSOIL SPECIFICALLY targets the extended drain market and has been extremely successful. Both they and Royal Purple have also embraced the synthetic glass media oil filter phenomenon, something the majors aren't involved in. This creates some nice separation too IMHO.
These companies go after niches. That doesn't mean that the majors don't make products that are just as good for those niches (though AMSOIL's extended drains are the longest in the industry) but perhaps the service and support through these smaller companies is better and more personal. That in itself adds value.
I use AMSOIL products but I don't necessarily feel they are superior to comparable products Mobil offers. What they do have however are some unique products that the majors don't make as well as great service.
Actually, it's exactly like that. While most oil companies only stop to think about making a truly fortified and specialized oil for engines that will get a sump dump after the flag is waved, Schaeffer makes products that will do that, without having to throw it away the same day it is put in the engine.
That is why if you hang around people who build engines for 8 and 9 second street cars, and performance boats, you're not going to hear about sumps being filled with PYB, M1, or anything like it. They just don't cut it, and what is recommended for those engines by those companies is something that is a very temporary fill, or simply incorrect.
Mobil is most guilty of this; recommending their lame 15/50 for a lot of hot rod engines that will shear it to water in no time flat despite their "recommendation" for use with flat tappet and older engines. That's one oil that nobody who knows anything wants to use.
UOA's don't lie. Shear prone engines eat major manufacturer's oils to water where superior regular-use lubes like Amsoil Dominator, Schaeffer's MicronMoly, and yes, even Valvoline's VR1 continue not to notice long after other oils are broken down.
It's not a fault of technology so many companies don't have an equivalent. It's a fault of will.
Of course, this is the part where you will point out that this is a specific example, and does not apply to everything that Schaeffer makes, nor everything that Mobil makes. Then I will remind you that I never said any such thing, and that this is a thread about an old English car and I only said that Schaeffer's makes superior products despite being a smaller oil company. Being specific to the OP's inquiry, the answer is a solid no. Mobil, SOPUS, and pretty much everyone out there at the top besides Valvoline don't make anything even close to the quality and performance of Schaeffer's 20/50. And even then, MicronMoly runs cooler oil temps than VR1 and is likely a superior oil.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
That is why if you hang around people who build engines for 8 and 9 second street cars, and performance boats, you're not going to hear about sumps being filled with PYB, M1, or anything like it. They just don't cut it, and what is recommended for those engines by those companies is something that is a very temporary fill, or simply incorrect.
These companies do offer racing specific oils, too. They're just not as readily available as VR-1, or even a lot of boutiques.
That is why if you hang around people who build engines for 8 and 9 second street cars, and performance boats, you're not going to hear about sumps being filled with PYB, M1, or anything like it. They just don't cut it, and what is recommended for those engines by those companies is something that is a very temporary fill, or simply incorrect.
These companies do offer racing specific oils, too. They're just not as readily available as VR-1, or even a lot of boutiques.
Like I said, racing specific oils not approved for continuous use that have to be quickly dumped.
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Mobil 1 Racing™ 0W-30 and 0W-50 were developed specifically for racing engines and are not recommended for street use.
For road and track use, consider Mobil 1™ motor oils in 15W-50 or 0W-40 viscosities.
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Mobil 1 Racing™ 0W-30 and 0W-50 were developed specifically for racing engines and are not recommended for street use.
For road and track use, consider Mobil 1™ motor oils in 15W-50 or 0W-40 viscosities.
Originally Posted By: HiPowerShooter
Originally Posted By: Shannow
What oil are you running in the carbs ?
I experimented with everything from ATF to STP when I had triples on my Holdens...changing the dashpot oil can change drivability amazingly.
The MGB is an easy car to maintain. The manual states to use 20/50 in the engine, transmission, and dashpots. I do use the 20/50 during the summer, then switch to ATF in cooler months. Keeps the mixture from leaning out.
I grew up in a 65 TR-4, in reality a very similar car just a bit more power. It was revealed to me by a Jag owner about the dashpot oil trick, man could those Strombergs change their colors with some different oil in them.
Thanks for bringing back those memories. Those little cars are real chick magnets! Enjoy...
Originally Posted By: Shannow
What oil are you running in the carbs ?
I experimented with everything from ATF to STP when I had triples on my Holdens...changing the dashpot oil can change drivability amazingly.
The MGB is an easy car to maintain. The manual states to use 20/50 in the engine, transmission, and dashpots. I do use the 20/50 during the summer, then switch to ATF in cooler months. Keeps the mixture from leaning out.
I grew up in a 65 TR-4, in reality a very similar car just a bit more power. It was revealed to me by a Jag owner about the dashpot oil trick, man could those Strombergs change their colors with some different oil in them.
Thanks for bringing back those memories. Those little cars are real chick magnets! Enjoy...
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Like I said, racing specific oils not approved for continuous use that have to be quickly dumped.
Quote:
Mobil 1 Racing™ 0W-30 and 0W-50 were developed specifically for racing engines and are not recommended for street use.
For road and track use, consider Mobil 1™ motor oils in 15W-50 or 0W-40 viscosities.
That would also fit the Amsoil Dominator series mentioned above. I use the 15W-50 in my boat...
Like I said, racing specific oils not approved for continuous use that have to be quickly dumped.
Quote:
Mobil 1 Racing™ 0W-30 and 0W-50 were developed specifically for racing engines and are not recommended for street use.
For road and track use, consider Mobil 1™ motor oils in 15W-50 or 0W-40 viscosities.
That would also fit the Amsoil Dominator series mentioned above. I use the 15W-50 in my boat...
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APPLICATIONS
DOMINATOR 15W-50 Synthetic Racing Oil is recommended for asphalt late model, dirt late model, modified big block, endurance, rally, sprint, truck-pull, aluminum block, marine and other high-performance racing and street applications that require a 50-weight oil.
APPLICATIONS
DOMINATOR 15W-50 Synthetic Racing Oil is recommended for asphalt late model, dirt late model, modified big block, endurance, rally, sprint, truck-pull, aluminum block, marine and other high-performance racing and street applications that require a 50-weight oil.
I am always amazed at how some folks view a company like Schaeffer as some mom and pop operation that is brewing up oil batches in the bath tub out in the barn, in comparison to the big retailers like Mobil. Sure, Mobil and Shell may make the lion's share of base oil that we have, but no one in their right mind runs only a base oil. Any oil, lube, grease, etc is a package deal.
Schaeffer is a more open company than Mobil or Shell ever could be for product development. They even have a section of the St. Louis plant set aside for product reps to come in and do product testing themselves and even develop new products for specific users. So a Schaeffer user is not necessarily stuck with a one size fits all solution as they would be with the big market oil companies. And they don't think only a tribologist can come up with a good solution to a problem. The grease they developed for Shell and have exclusive rights to make for Shell was developed by their most senior employee, an old codger who started working for Schaeffer before WW II and only has a high school diploma. Except for a stint in the military during WW II, he has been with Schaeffer his whole life. So while they have all kinds of tech going on at Schaeffer, they never threw away the most valuable asset to company product development... their people. And the camaraderie and focus among the people at Schaeffer is refreshing in these times. It was truly an eye opening experience to go down to St. Louis and see this company, get a personal tour and meet many of the folks from those who work the lines on up to senior staff and their top company reps. I seriously doubt that Mobil or Shell would allow a sales rep from Rocks Throw, Wherever to waltz into the company, head on back to the product development area, and start playing around with various mixes to find a solution to a problem. Schaeffer allows that and encourages it.
On the Shell thing, it was fascinating to find out, that once Schaeffer developed the grease for them, Shell tried to do a buy out of Schaeffer to take control of it. But Schaeffer is structured in such a way so that Shell could not get their hands on the company. So Shell just buys the product from Schaeffer and lives with the setup.
Schaeffer is a more open company than Mobil or Shell ever could be for product development. They even have a section of the St. Louis plant set aside for product reps to come in and do product testing themselves and even develop new products for specific users. So a Schaeffer user is not necessarily stuck with a one size fits all solution as they would be with the big market oil companies. And they don't think only a tribologist can come up with a good solution to a problem. The grease they developed for Shell and have exclusive rights to make for Shell was developed by their most senior employee, an old codger who started working for Schaeffer before WW II and only has a high school diploma. Except for a stint in the military during WW II, he has been with Schaeffer his whole life. So while they have all kinds of tech going on at Schaeffer, they never threw away the most valuable asset to company product development... their people. And the camaraderie and focus among the people at Schaeffer is refreshing in these times. It was truly an eye opening experience to go down to St. Louis and see this company, get a personal tour and meet many of the folks from those who work the lines on up to senior staff and their top company reps. I seriously doubt that Mobil or Shell would allow a sales rep from Rocks Throw, Wherever to waltz into the company, head on back to the product development area, and start playing around with various mixes to find a solution to a problem. Schaeffer allows that and encourages it.
On the Shell thing, it was fascinating to find out, that once Schaeffer developed the grease for them, Shell tried to do a buy out of Schaeffer to take control of it. But Schaeffer is structured in such a way so that Shell could not get their hands on the company. So Shell just buys the product from Schaeffer and lives with the setup.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Thanks for bringing back those memories. Those little cars are real chick magnets! Enjoy...
I'm sure my wife will be happy to hear it!lol!
It IS a fun car. It found me...I wasn't really looking for one. I've got bigger, faster, more comfortable...to me "it is what it is";a fun little car to drive on nice days. Although the top is in great condition AND has a very nice hardtop...I rarely(I've never driven with the soft top up)use them. I do use the cockpit boot and have driven in a pretty good rain. As long as I keep it above 55...I'm perfectly dry!lol!. Besides...it's a vinyl interior and I think the Brits designed them to handle quite a bit of moisture.
I've tried different combos of dashpot oils and finally settled on those two. I've rebuilt 4 sets of HIF's so far(sold 3)and found they all work well with it. I don't use the ATF until highs aren't expected to go above 60. I've had almost the same results with hydraulic jack oil as well in colder weather. SAE30 works pretty well in the summer as a substitute.
Here's another one for you; I know the recommended OCI in this car is 3k and obviously lubricants have changed. I also know that carbed engines run a little "dirty" in comparison with newer FI/ECM controlled cars. So...should I still stick to the book, or do you think it's safe to extend the OCI out to 5k or so? The reason, is that that's about what I drive per year and would rather simply change it once per season. The engine is very well tuned, and runs at the correct mixture...maybe even a little toward the lean side. I use the starting enrichment for only a couple of seconds at initial start-up.
Thanks for bringing back those memories. Those little cars are real chick magnets! Enjoy...
I'm sure my wife will be happy to hear it!lol!
It IS a fun car. It found me...I wasn't really looking for one. I've got bigger, faster, more comfortable...to me "it is what it is";a fun little car to drive on nice days. Although the top is in great condition AND has a very nice hardtop...I rarely(I've never driven with the soft top up)use them. I do use the cockpit boot and have driven in a pretty good rain. As long as I keep it above 55...I'm perfectly dry!lol!. Besides...it's a vinyl interior and I think the Brits designed them to handle quite a bit of moisture.
I've tried different combos of dashpot oils and finally settled on those two. I've rebuilt 4 sets of HIF's so far(sold 3)and found they all work well with it. I don't use the ATF until highs aren't expected to go above 60. I've had almost the same results with hydraulic jack oil as well in colder weather. SAE30 works pretty well in the summer as a substitute.
Here's another one for you; I know the recommended OCI in this car is 3k and obviously lubricants have changed. I also know that carbed engines run a little "dirty" in comparison with newer FI/ECM controlled cars. So...should I still stick to the book, or do you think it's safe to extend the OCI out to 5k or so? The reason, is that that's about what I drive per year and would rather simply change it once per season. The engine is very well tuned, and runs at the correct mixture...maybe even a little toward the lean side. I use the starting enrichment for only a couple of seconds at initial start-up.
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
I am always amazed at how some folks view a company like Schaeffer as some mom and pop operation that is brewing up oil batches in the bath tub out in the barn, in comparison to the big retailers like Mobil.
I love hearing stories like this. The sport aviation/competitive shooting world is full of companies such as this. Many small privately owned companies making parts, lubricants...entire aircraft/rifles...to compete with their "big" brothers. It's refreshing to walk around big airshows like the EAA/commercial row at Camp Perry and often talk with their CEO's, owners etc...at "boot" level. I'm a big proponent of supporting smaller companies and it's another consideration in this choice.
I am always amazed at how some folks view a company like Schaeffer as some mom and pop operation that is brewing up oil batches in the bath tub out in the barn, in comparison to the big retailers like Mobil.
I love hearing stories like this. The sport aviation/competitive shooting world is full of companies such as this. Many small privately owned companies making parts, lubricants...entire aircraft/rifles...to compete with their "big" brothers. It's refreshing to walk around big airshows like the EAA/commercial row at Camp Perry and often talk with their CEO's, owners etc...at "boot" level. I'm a big proponent of supporting smaller companies and it's another consideration in this choice.
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