S70 needs Better Tires

[slacktide_bitog]

greetings from another person still driving an s70.
I too am in search of tires.
My s70 is a base model and came with 15 inch wheels.

I have noticed that the selection of 15 in tires isn't what it was pre-covid. I also realize fewer cars use 15 inch wheels so there is less demand for them.

I had thought of picking up a set of 16 inch rims to increase my choice of tires but I concluded that the extra price of sourcing used rims wouldn't really benefit me as the choice of 15 in tires I have still contains tires I would be willing to put on the car.

I will look into whether the tires above still come in 195 60r15 .

195/60-15 still has plenty of options, as it was a common size, and of course, tires that small are very cheap too

(Nokian) Nordman Solstice 4 on sale right now
Falken Aklimate
General 365AW
Toyo Celsius II
Milstear AW365
The cheapest all-weather tires in your size seem to be the Lexani Quattro Tempo

 

[edyvw]

I hate cheap tires, but I actually bought a westlake as a full size spare for the Rav4 - from ebay no less, but a reputable tire seller, I forget which. It was Indonesian made.

It balanced easily I was told. I didn't run it much - only a couple times when I had a nails - which is common here, but it seemed to handle fine.

I am sure it wouldn't last all that long, but if I needed the cheapest possible tire I would honestly consider them.

I agree with you on Yoko's though. I had one set - very unimpressive in general.

I bought Sentry for BMW as full spare to have when going to ski. It has everything on the sidewall: UHP, All weather etc. Only Snowflake is missing on the sidewall
I will never understand pricing on Yoko. I used some of their tires on track. Sometimes they have good deals. They are generally OK, but very often run more expensive than Michelin, Continental, and Bridgestone, and one thing is for sure, they ain't those tires.

 

[rstcso]

I enjoy watching the tyrereviews YouTube channel. He did a comparison of a half dozen cheap tires vs a premium tire. His tests include wet braking, wet handling, and dry handling. He is consistent in his testing methods, regardless of what he's testing. He also uses manufacturers' test tracks in Europe and the US, so variability on each test is minimized.

 

[97prizm]

Which of the supplied criteria do you focus on when purchasing tires?
I use the UTQG rating. I buy the "highest mileage" examples.

I'm comfortable with the Continental name.
Never owned a Kumho.
The only set of Yokohama I owned didn't impress me positively. <<I took no notes back then.
And the Westlake....a $56 V-rated tire! Ohh WTH, give 'em a shot.

On my second set of Continental tires on the neon. Worth the money. They performed better than expected in snow and cold. The first set wore a little under their milage so discount tire prorated them. The second set seems to be on point. If you purchase tires on Amazon how does balance and rotation not including warranty work? They don't own any tire stores.

 

[barbersurgeon]

If tread wear is most important the PIRELLI CINTURATO WEATHERACTIVE is $123 per tire with instant rebate on tire rack right now.

700 A A UTQG, looks to be an excellent value from a legacy brand.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...atherActive&partnum=055VR6CWA&fromSurvey=true

 

[rstcso]

If tread wear is most important the PIRELLI CINTURATO WEATHERACTIVE is $123 per tire with instant rebate on tire rack right now.

700 A A UTQG, looks to be an excellent value from a legacy brand.

Pirelli has a great reputation.

In 2007, I bought my wife a Mustang (first year they went back to the original styling). It came with Pirelli P-Zero tires. Although my preference would have been something in the Michelin line for replacements, my wife would not allow me to put anything but Pirelli P-Zero tires on her car. She drove it 150k miles before getting her something else.

 

[edyvw]

I enjoy watching the tyrereviews YouTube channel. He did a comparison of a half dozen cheap tires vs a premium tire. His tests include wet braking, wet handling, and dry handling. He is consistent in his testing methods, regardless of what he's testing. He also uses manufacturers' test tracks in Europe and the US, so variability on each test is minimized.

This is where the game is, wet performance.
But, there is even bigger issue, and that is performance retention. Cheaper tires do not retain performance as well as premium tires. Michelin is probably best in that discipline. It is hard to test that, let's say, take 10 tires, and drive all of them 30,000mls over 3yrs.
CR did that a few years back, and someone posted the results here. Michelin was best, and interestingly, Yokohama was worst. Though test did not include such superstars as Double Coin or Tomkat.