Rust preventitive for problem firearms ???

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We have several rifles and shotguns that have a problem with rust.

Years ago.... I got a quart of something that I thought was LPS-1. It was a light viscosity super creep oil that looked a little like very weak coffee. I mixed it 50/50 with Mobil 1 5W-20 and man oh man it was the cat's meow.

I'm all out.

We have tried just about everything over the years and the only thing that even comes close is Rig gun grease. The problem is it doesn't creep.

After cleaning, I anoint the bores with Aero Kroil which works pretty well. It's the outside surfaces that I'm having trouble with.

Somebody suggested synthetic automatic transmission fluid mixed with break-free.

Anyone else have a special concoction?

Thanks

Kevin
 
First of all, rather that relying of treatments/concoctions, you should try to control the environment - so even something like WD-40 will help. Although I definitely do NOT recommend WD-40 on fine gun parts. It will gum up and it attracts stuff.

Get a safe or somewhat sealed box somewhere in your house or shop that stays at a relatively stable temperature. Then use Desi pack desiccant along with a light bulb or Golden Rod. When you do this, all you need a light gun oil.

HD MP recommendation is GREAT for long term storage on outer surfaces, but that stuff is nasty thick. It's a waxy, not sticky coating/ It works, but you don't want it in the works. I use:

Amsoil MP Metal Protector
 
Originally Posted By: kballowe
I keep them in safes in a controlled environment. Seriously I'm taking about a couple of problem firearms.


If the environment is controlled, regular MP will do a fine job. But also get some Rem Oil with VCI - not regular Remington Gun oil. Find the stuff with VCI.

Has the rust already started? If so, then that makes it double tough. Is rebluing a possibility?
 
I have used Ballistol with excellent luck on my guns in the past. Never had one start to rust with it. I did when I used regular lubes.

WD40 is [censored] for everything but a solvent or to get water out of guns that got wet in the field. Its a terrible lube and I have also seen it varnish and gum up causing malfunctions.
 
I agree that WD40 is great for a lot of things, but firearms isn't one of them.

These firearms do not currently have any rust. I'm just trying to prevent.

With four large safes, I'm interested with economy of scale. Hence, the question about special concoctions. Certainly there are some fine commercial rust and lubrication products but they are expensive and most are not nearly persistent as what i was using.

For most of the rest of my collection, Breakfree CLP works just fine.
 
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I have had great results with "wool-wax", a.k.a. lanolin from Fluid-Film. I spray two pumps of the sprayer into a rag, like the old "oily rag" and wipe things down. It doesn't run or drip or dry out. www.fluid-film.com
 
I've always been wary of concoctions on the exterior of firearms. Tried several for cleaning the bore, but never the exterior.

I've seen guys try something "NEW" that they "just threw together", and they successfully wiped the bluing from one side of their firearm.

Some of the stuff is pricy. But it is much cheaper than finding and buying a new firearm, potentially one that is relatively rare can be impossible to find.

BTW, a cheaper alternative I've also seen guys use Turtle Wax or some other car wax on their firearms, the buff it in and polish as much of it is possible off the gun, and then it is pretty much waterproof.
 
Heck yeah - avoid anything that will damage the bluing.

I think wax is a good idea for certain guns, polished bluing for example.

Just so you don't think I'm pushing Amsoil, as mentioned - with a controlled environment, this stuff has been proven to work well even in moist places:

Rem Oil with VCI

I use it along with the VCI shells. I have some guns that I would go nuts if they rusted and I live in a very moist place.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Heck yeah - avoid anything that will damage the bluing.

I think wax is a good idea for certain guns, polished bluing for example.

Just so you don't think I'm pushing Amsoil, as mentioned - with a controlled environment, this stuff has been proven to work well even in moist places:

Rem Oil with VCI

I use it along with the VCI shells. I have some guns that I would go nuts if they rusted and I live in a very moist place.


In my mind, it's perfectly OK to push Amsoil. Or whatever else that may be a good fit.
 
The best is Muzzle loader lube, Wonder Lube 1000+ stops and prevents rust on all guns. Smells good and cheap.
 
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Just had a failure using regular rem-oil on an stainless barreled rifle... >( Its been in storage for about a year and was soaked in rem oil throughout the rifle. It was hard to pull the bolt back (uh oh!) and when I got it apart I found rust had formed between the locking lugs of the steel bolt and stainless barrel, as well as where the bolt has wear lines from sliding.

Was the plastic case the culprit (trapping in humidity)? It was basically in a climate controlled closet next to a constant heat source all year, humidity shouldn't have been a problem???

I feel lucky its mostly cosmetic, just makes me mad...
 
Plastic case sound like a bad idea unless you have have a bunch of paks of desiccant sealed inside. Obviously it was not sealed or there was moisture to start with.

Regular Rem oil not good for your usage. Rem oil with VCI is much better.

All that said - sometimes carbon steel and stainless steel in contact in the presence of moisture are not good - the mild steel can actually corrode faster.
 
Any thoughts on what to use on a blued gun with some surface rust? I want to just get the rust off and hopefully not to too much damage to the bluing.
 
Originally Posted By: wymi516
Any thoughts on what to use on a blued gun with some surface rust? I want to just get the rust off and hopefully not to too much damage to the bluing.


A fine bronze wool with some oil. VERY light rubbing and it will likely come off without hurting the blue too much. If you can't find any bronze wool, you can use 0000 steel wool but you have to be careful as it will remove the finish easier.
 
I use Remoil on my all of my firearms and haven't had any trouble with rust but I use a desiccant "dehumidifier" and a Golden rod in each safe. I don't use any type of cases/socks inside the safe for storage.
 
Originally Posted By: 2cool
I have had great results with "wool-wax", a.k.a. lanolin from Fluid-Film. I spray two pumps of the sprayer into a rag, like the old "oily rag" and wipe things down. It doesn't run or drip or dry out. www.fluid-film.com


I've had a section of fake chamois that I've mixed 50:50 vaseline and lanolin,melted, and allowed to soak in...works really well, but doesn't creep or do anything on surfaces that you can't reach...Ed's red with lanolin goes OK.

I use Camphor blocks in my safe as a VPI
 
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