My wife gave me some Christmas cash and said "go buy a gun."
I love her! Anyone own the gun and what can you tell me?
Thanks
I love her! Anyone own the gun and what can you tell me?
Thanks
Ruger LCP .380
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Small, 6+1, could have better sights, small and easy to carry.
Good 7 yard and closer weapon. Can shoot it longer distances but with the sights its a challenge.
Bill
Good 7 yard and closer weapon. Can shoot it longer distances but with the sights its a challenge.
Bill
I have had one for a month, very easy to carry. So many times i could not carry my .45 or 9mm. The lcp is much easier to conceal. Just remember its a shoot and run gun, not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45. I have heard its picky on ammo. I carry mine with fmj due to poor penetration. I'm using Winchester white box.
Personally I would go with a J Frame S&W. Also I would stick to the .38 +P That's just me. Although you could just shoot the .38's in the .357.
Maybe they have changed but the Rugers are just too bulky. Try booth. You can't go wrong with a Smith.
Wait..my bad you are looking at a .380 Check out Kel-Tec
Maybe they have changed but the Rugers are just too bulky. Try booth. You can't go wrong with a Smith.
Wait..my bad you are looking at a .380 Check out Kel-Tec
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Great pocket gun. Very light and thin Quality seems better than the Kel Tec. Some Kel Tecs need to have a "Fluff & Buff" done to run right. LCPs rarely need the process to run right.
I have had great luck with Cor-Bon Ammo and Hornady Critical Defense ammo in my LCP.
Like already stated the 380 bullet is not a show stopper but you can carry this pistol concealed much better than a larger framed pistol.
I have had great luck with Cor-Bon Ammo and Hornady Critical Defense ammo in my LCP.
Like already stated the 380 bullet is not a show stopper but you can carry this pistol concealed much better than a larger framed pistol.
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Break it in. Pick a quality reliable ammo that never jams, FTF's, or stovepipes. I'd put at least 100rds(not all at once as heat cycling is important for any metal) through it before slipping into a pocket holster.
Most 380's are similar. Great pocket gun for the money. Certain brands can be ammo picky. "Fluff and buff" is common with any but I think Ruger produces more good guns during the week. Seems that Keltec/Taurus... only build guns on Monday mornings and Friday evenings. And some gun manufacturers only build guns after a medicinal smoking break.
Any smaller weapon you carry is better than a bigger one that you can't carry that is left at home.
I have a .32 Seecamp, .32 Keltec, .380 NAA, & .380 Bryco. You can guess which two were paperweights without the fluff and buff. I've looked at the LCP/LCR and still might grab the combo. Plastic guns don't drag the pants down like the all metal ones do.
All my Rugers, Mini-14, 2 GP100's, an SP101, and a good ol' MarkII .22LR, were super reliable and as accurate as any shooter can be.
BuffaloBore, PDx1, GoldDots, Hydrashots, FTX, XTP, and GoldenSabers are some ammo's to try.
Most 380's are similar. Great pocket gun for the money. Certain brands can be ammo picky. "Fluff and buff" is common with any but I think Ruger produces more good guns during the week. Seems that Keltec/Taurus... only build guns on Monday mornings and Friday evenings. And some gun manufacturers only build guns after a medicinal smoking break.
Any smaller weapon you carry is better than a bigger one that you can't carry that is left at home.
I have a .32 Seecamp, .32 Keltec, .380 NAA, & .380 Bryco. You can guess which two were paperweights without the fluff and buff. I've looked at the LCP/LCR and still might grab the combo. Plastic guns don't drag the pants down like the all metal ones do.
All my Rugers, Mini-14, 2 GP100's, an SP101, and a good ol' MarkII .22LR, were super reliable and as accurate as any shooter can be.
BuffaloBore, PDx1, GoldDots, Hydrashots, FTX, XTP, and GoldenSabers are some ammo's to try.
Ive had Kel-Tec P3AT, Kahr P380, Diamondback DB380, and Ruger LCP. The Ruger is the best. Not one single jam or malfunction in over 500 rounds. I just replaced the recoil springs since they were getting a little soft. It is a fantastic gun to have when nothing else will fit. I usually carry a Smith and Wesson 340 snub nose in 357 magnum, but that gun is much bulkier than the Ruger LCP and I can't conceal it when wearing certain style clothes. I load the LCP with Remington Golden Saber 102 grain JHP. They penetrate deeper than almost any other hollow point.
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Bet you never seen anyone hit with a bullet before, have you?
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Bet you never seen anyone hit with a bullet before, have you?
Sorry to be rude in the last post but pistol calibers can be very, very good at killing people. Some like the 25 ACP or 22LR can take a while to bring someone down with a center mass shot, others like the 45ACP, 40,357 or 10mm will bring them down much quicker. Bigger and faster is always better but you cannot always carry a 50BMG in your pocket.
A gun of any size is always better than a swiss pocket knife. Just pick the right one for your needs/abilities.
A gun of any size is always better than a swiss pocket knife. Just pick the right one for your needs/abilities.
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Be careful there. Plenty of people have been STOPPED (and I mean killed right there) with only one shot. And of all calibers.
We had a guy stopped with a .38sp (non +p) last summer by a CCW here. One in the chest and he was done. I bet he wished for that "myth"...
Agree that one shot is something I'd never do. My training has always been double tap and see what is up with the threat. Rinse and repeat.
Take care, Bill
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Be careful there. Plenty of people have been STOPPED (and I mean killed right there) with only one shot. And of all calibers.
We had a guy stopped with a .38sp (non +p) last summer by a CCW here. One in the chest and he was done. I bet he wished for that "myth"...
Agree that one shot is something I'd never do. My training has always been double tap and see what is up with the threat. Rinse and repeat.
Take care, Bill
.357 magnum would be the best chance at one shot stopper. I was shooting a 55 gallon drum once with a .45 and over half of the bullets failed to even pierce the barrell, not much of a believer in the .45 after that. A .25 is a total joke, I would not even fear that gun. I doubt it would even penetrate to any organs. A .22 long rifle, I would have more respect for.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
A .25 is a total joke, I would not even fear that gun. I doubt it would even penetrate to any organs.
Hilarious. At least look up some ballistics testing. It's not the most powerful thing out there, but it ain't a BB gun.
One shot kills aren't that rare. Of course, luck is part of it. My dad worked as a med tech in an ER in the early 70s and saw some strange things. One wounded guy tried to fight a doctor who was trying to treat him. He wasn't on drugs or anything, just adrenaline. He had 6 .38 chest wounds. His girlfriend emptied a revolver into him during a domestic dispute. I want to say he lived, too.
A .25 is a total joke, I would not even fear that gun. I doubt it would even penetrate to any organs.
Hilarious. At least look up some ballistics testing. It's not the most powerful thing out there, but it ain't a BB gun.
One shot kills aren't that rare. Of course, luck is part of it. My dad worked as a med tech in an ER in the early 70s and saw some strange things. One wounded guy tried to fight a doctor who was trying to treat him. He wasn't on drugs or anything, just adrenaline. He had 6 .38 chest wounds. His girlfriend emptied a revolver into him during a domestic dispute. I want to say he lived, too.
A client of mine took a .45 auto in the arm right above the elbow. It ran up his arm and came out his back. It was a grievous wound, messed his arm up good, and made a big hole coming out, but he still had plenty of fight left in him.
A murder trial going on today involves a woman shot in the breast with a .357 JHP. The bullet (according to the paper) entered her breast, went through the soft tissue to her liver, penetrated her liver, and came to rest in four pieces near her spine. It took her a couple of hours to succumb to this shot. She lost a liter of blood internally.
A case that will soon wind its way through our system involves an ex wife who (allegedly) took a borrowed .380 auto to a home where her ex husband was sleeping, and shot him through a closed glass window into his neck. He apparently did not even wake up, but a week or so later was having pain in his neck and shoulder and a hospital determined he had been shot. The bullet was later found in an interior wall of the home after it penetrated a few other walls.
Bigger is probably better, but a lot of luck (good and bad) is clearly involved.
I don't carry often, but when I do it ranges from .22LR to .38 +P in an LCR. I'm a professional person, so if I can't carry it comfortably in my pants pocket, it just does not get carried.
I wouldn't want to get shot with anything.
edit: I forgot about another one that will go to trial in a month or so. Victim's buddy empties some kind of a Browning .22LR into victims chest. Shooter is in front seat, victim in back. Victims appears to be dead, but when car stops at light, he gets out of car, runs away, and dies on side of road, iirc.
Been a lot of shootings lately, including a home invasion that did result in a DRT for the invader. Don't know what caliber was involved in that, but it was a handgun.
A murder trial going on today involves a woman shot in the breast with a .357 JHP. The bullet (according to the paper) entered her breast, went through the soft tissue to her liver, penetrated her liver, and came to rest in four pieces near her spine. It took her a couple of hours to succumb to this shot. She lost a liter of blood internally.
A case that will soon wind its way through our system involves an ex wife who (allegedly) took a borrowed .380 auto to a home where her ex husband was sleeping, and shot him through a closed glass window into his neck. He apparently did not even wake up, but a week or so later was having pain in his neck and shoulder and a hospital determined he had been shot. The bullet was later found in an interior wall of the home after it penetrated a few other walls.
Bigger is probably better, but a lot of luck (good and bad) is clearly involved.
I don't carry often, but when I do it ranges from .22LR to .38 +P in an LCR. I'm a professional person, so if I can't carry it comfortably in my pants pocket, it just does not get carried.
I wouldn't want to get shot with anything.
edit: I forgot about another one that will go to trial in a month or so. Victim's buddy empties some kind of a Browning .22LR into victims chest. Shooter is in front seat, victim in back. Victims appears to be dead, but when car stops at light, he gets out of car, runs away, and dies on side of road, iirc.
Been a lot of shootings lately, including a home invasion that did result in a DRT for the invader. Don't know what caliber was involved in that, but it was a handgun.
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.25 autommatic =noisy bb gun. I am telling you look up the ballistics. This thing is a joke. I was kid and I would shoot phone books to test the penetration of the various handgun bullets. Sometimes(more than not) the .25 bullet wouldnt even stick itself in the book and would stuck in the cover like a fat little arrow. Full metal case yet. I am telling, .22 Lr, mean little bullet, .22 magnum-IMPRESSIVE. .25 noisy bb gun. A .22 cal pellet air gun would do more than that little bugger.
As long as the thief isn't wearing a phone book, the 25acp can kill. And, is one of the reasons all those Saturday night specials got hit by the anti-freedom crowd. The 25ACP has killed plenty already.
Since this is a Ruger LCP 380 thread, buy it. Other options are the Keltec, DiamondBack, Taurus, Hellcat, Accutek, MPA... the rest are >$300. I think that the Ruger/Keltec are easy choices here. Other brands are teething still.
Since this is a Ruger LCP 380 thread, buy it. Other options are the Keltec, DiamondBack, Taurus, Hellcat, Accutek, MPA... the rest are >$300. I think that the Ruger/Keltec are easy choices here. Other brands are teething still.
If you are convinced you want a .380 size gun. Check out the Makarov. You can find them at gun shows and at larger gun dealers. Look at one online. they are 9x18, which is a round, in between the 9mm and .380. they are Warsaw pact countries sidearm. Ammo is very plentiful for them now. Alot of speciality ammo is avaiable. Very solid, dependable gun and accurate. Since they are a military sidearm(although very small, about Walther PPK size, they are over built and about jam proof). Russian made ones are most popular, East german ones are by far the nicest. I love mine.
Originally Posted By: BobsArmory
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Bet you never seen anyone hit with a bullet before, have you?
I used to work as a police officer in one of America's most dangerous cities. I worked in the projects. I saw a gunshot victim, on average, once a night with sometimes several per night. I've seen a guy that was shot 5 times in the chest with a .45 walking around and I've seen a guy shot in the leg once with a .22 dead. The simple fact it that shot placement is key. Handguns can kill you deader than dead (and so can a sharp stick) But pistols are still poor man stoppers. If you know you are going to a gun fight, bring a rifle. Use your handgun to fight your way back to your rifle. Every military man and police officer in the country knows this.
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: spasm3
not a one shot stopper like a 40 or 45.
One shot stop in any pistol caliber is a myth. All pistol calibers are terrible manstoppers, including the 45.
Bet you never seen anyone hit with a bullet before, have you?
I used to work as a police officer in one of America's most dangerous cities. I worked in the projects. I saw a gunshot victim, on average, once a night with sometimes several per night. I've seen a guy that was shot 5 times in the chest with a .45 walking around and I've seen a guy shot in the leg once with a .22 dead. The simple fact it that shot placement is key. Handguns can kill you deader than dead (and so can a sharp stick) But pistols are still poor man stoppers. If you know you are going to a gun fight, bring a rifle. Use your handgun to fight your way back to your rifle. Every military man and police officer in the country knows this.
Agree with this. Don't ever think just because you carry a .xx that all is good. Yes, the NHP/Border .40 S&W in the 155gn JHP is one of the best with 96% one stop it means that one guy may have been stopped with a shot but another did not.
I've personally saw a guy shot 8 times with a 12 gauge shotgun. He said I've had enough and HE stopped. They took a space blanket, wrapped it around his gut and off he went to the hospital. A few operations later he was fine to go to jail.
With all that said, I carry most of the time a .380 and am not worried at all. Shot placement and even more important stay away from trouble (know your surroundings all the time!)
Bill
I've personally saw a guy shot 8 times with a 12 gauge shotgun. He said I've had enough and HE stopped. They took a space blanket, wrapped it around his gut and off he went to the hospital. A few operations later he was fine to go to jail.
With all that said, I carry most of the time a .380 and am not worried at all. Shot placement and even more important stay away from trouble (know your surroundings all the time!)
Bill
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