Rotors: Advics, Bosch, Power Stop

[willbur]

Is it worth spending additional $15 for the high carbon Advics rotors? It is supposed to help against warping.

Hi carbon are more resistant to wear from semi met pads and are usually found on performance euro cars. Hi carbon and semi mets are the highest performing combo. Warping? Cryo treated rotors supposedly help with that. Centric used to sell hi carbon cryo treated rotors, but don't know if they still do

 

[paulo57509]

I had surprisingly good performance with Raybestos R-Line, "white-box garbage" rotors and Akebono Pro-ACTS pads on the LS400. Unlike the performance with the OEM brakes (Advics) on the Highlander.

I might go the garbage and Akebono route on the other Toyotas.

 

[diyjake]

Bosch and powerstop both made in china?

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Bosch and powerstop both made in china?

Yes, both made in China, but the Geomet coating will last awhile before getting rusty

There is a brand of coated rotors made in Turkey called Metrix Premium

 

[thescreensavers]

Lexus dealer wants $147 for the Advics.
On RA they were $65 with the Oct 10% off and arriving Monday. I will post the country of origin and guarantee it will not be Japan.


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For ordering OEM Lexus parts I order from Bell (108)or Treasure Coast ($105) Lexus dealers. Still not as cheap as RA but jus fyi.

 

[HighHy21]

Geomet's last a long time before getting rusty?

The rust on the ATE rotors disagrees, and back then pads and rotors were usually changed every 50,000 miles, and the geomet coating didn't last more than 1 NJ winter season (since NJ uses a lot of salt).

If you lived in a state that uses beet juice based ice melter or no salt at all, it would survive longer.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Geomet's last a long time before getting rusty?

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The rust on the ATE rotors disagrees, and back then pads and rotors were usually changed every 50,000 miles, and the geomet coating didn't last more than 1 NJ winter season (since NJ uses a lot of salt).

If you lived in a state that uses beet juice based ice melter or no salt at all, it would survive longer.

The hat still looks good, and they should still slide off easy, even if they don't look brand new

If you're able to remove the rotors without a hammer, then the coating is good

Non-coated rotors rust within hours

 

[wsar10]

I would go with PS and be done.
I have used their products for years with awesome results no matter what the application was, currently on all of my vehicles today.
My LEX currently has PS all the way around it with the coated rotors. the rotors were beastly like even compared to an OE LEXUS part.

No matter what you do, a PROPER brake job is a must.... You HAVE to clean and relubricate the slide pins, among other areas. I specifically mention the LEXUS slide pins because they will have a small rubber band around the upper or lower pin (I forget which one now) that rests in a groove on the pin itself. If these were not taken care of in the past, I would just buy new slide pins before even starting the job. My rule on the ES is if the rubber piece comes off or I have to dig it out of the caliper, I replace them because that means its stretched and worn and will not do its job, which I believe is about noise dampening and cleaning the bore the slide pin moves within.

Just my $0.02, FWIW.

 

[Patrick0525]

The Advics arrived and they are made in God Bless America. $65 a piece. The back markings also matched the Lexus dealer pics. Pure luck.

Difficult but I found a local shop that will do rotor re-surfacing for $25 a piece.

 

[nthach]

If the Advics rotors for your car are US/Japan made, they’re really nice but if you buy OE Toyota during a promo, it’ll be cheaper in some cases with free shipping. I ordered a pair or rotors for a Sienna, used a dealership in NC(Fred Thompson), paid $125ish shipped.

I’ve installed a set of DFC coated rotors all around on a Genesis G80 and they seemed to be decent. Ditto with a Fit, but with their drums. I have a feeling all the Chinesium is similar. I have a set of Bendix PriorityOne rear rotors on deck for an another Prius. They seem promising. $25/each off Amazon. They’re coated, MAT Holdings calls it Surface-Lok, which I assume is their version of Geomet. MAT does supply the AutoZone/O’Reilly/Advance brake programs.

 

[johnmyster]

I know our original 2009 venza rotors were warped enough to shimmy the front end at less than 70k miles, easy driving, barely 20% into the second set of pads. If Advics was the OEM, I'm not impressed.

Post COVID parts availability, I had few options for new aftermarket rotors at less than insane pricing. The venza front rotors are apparently model specific although IIRC, the pads and calipers are not. I gave $110 for a pair of delco uncoated rotors (too much by today's market) that now look like rusty piles of junk, but are still straight after four years and 25k miles of short trip family hauling.

I still have the originals and may someday see if turning them gives them a second chance at life.

I have Bosch QC Ceramic and Powerstop Z36 brake pads on other vehicles and am not so proud that I wouldn't put them on our Toyota and expect excellent results.