RIP Michelin.

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Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I like Michelins overall. But in the 1980's I bought all my cars (mustangs,T-Birds) with the Michelin TRX tire system on them,(15.3" Dia) I was told by many that TRX's were the greatest inovation ever in tire tech..... Now these cars just sit, cant be used,becauce of tire availability, Its sad I cant drive these great cars, Some only have less than 20,000 miles.


You must be joking. My E24 M6 also came with TRX tires/wheels; I just switched to 16" wheels and 225/50-16 tires. Problem solved. Finding suitable tires and wheels for an '80s Mustang or T-Bird is even easier.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
François Michelin, the man who transformed the Michelin tire company into a global powerhouse, has passed away at the age of 88.

Michelin came in as co-managing partner in 1955, and helped make the Michelin X Radial (which was introduced in the 1940s) into the global standard. When he left the company in 2002, Michelin had become the world’s largest tire maker.


Thanks for posting this. The man was truly transformational in the tire industry.

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Too bad that no one at Michelin today has any idea as to what wet traction is.


If there's any productive value to this comment that moves the conversation forward or that helps to build community at BITOG, I'm failing to see it.
 
Tyanks Mr Michelin, you did good things.


Just ordered replacement tires for the 04 Wrangler. We have just under 160000 miles on the LTX M/S and they performed very well in everything but deep mud. Would have kept them a little longer, but one was repaired several years ago very close to the sidewall, and picked up a huge screw in another one over the weekend.
 
While I do not like my LTX MS2'in snow, and I thought Primacy wore too fast, wet traction has never been a problem for me. Even bald the Primacy was good! If they lasted 50k I could have been persuaded to buy again, but at a mere 30k of life.
 
Originally Posted By: MCompact
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I like Michelins overall. But in the 1980's I bought all my cars (mustangs,T-Birds) with the Michelin TRX tire system on them,(15.3" Dia) I was told by many that TRX's were the greatest inovation ever in tire tech..... Now these cars just sit, cant be used,becauce of tire availability, Its sad I cant drive these great cars, Some only have less than 20,000 miles.


You must be joking. My E24 M6 also came with TRX tires/wheels; I just switched to 16" wheels and 225/50-16 tires. Problem solved. Finding suitable tires and wheels for an '80s Mustang or T-Bird is even easier.

I assume he's joking/trolling, as replacement rims for Fords are trivial to purchase, but in case someone is genuinely looking for TRX tires, they are available from Coker Tire:

https://www.cokertire.com/michelin-trx.html

Spendy, yes, but if you can afford to have multiple classic cars sitting around doing nothing, then you can afford the tires.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I've run Pilot Super Sports down to the wear bars and had zero hydroplaning.

Friends of mine have run them bald -- even down to the cords -- and had the same result.


Truly ridiculous wet traction, and with the most inadequate looking tread design I have ever seen!

Factor in the lifespan and Pilot SS is one of the top tires available period for performance cars...
 
Originally Posted By: supton
While I do not like my LTX MS2'in snow, and I thought Primacy wore too fast, wet traction has never been a problem for me. Even bald the Primacy was good! If they lasted 50k I could have been persuaded to buy again, but at a mere 30k of life.

Don't they have tread life warranty ?

The Kumho 4X on the rear of my S2000 lasted only 11k miles, the warranty is 40k miles and stagger rear tires warranty is half at 20k miles, AT refunds 40-45% what I paid 2 years ago plus tax.

This tread life warranty is one of the reasons I bought tires at local AT store, and they match the lowest price I could find online. Low price plus excellent services at local store is the real deal.
 
I rotate tires myself these days. I found the stealer did not take apart brakes to ensure free sliding action on the pads, thus twice a year I pop 'em apart to lube the pads. Might as well rotate myself and not bother with waiting an hour or whatever during the workweek for a "free" rotation.

Dealership said my 30k lifespan on first Energies and the Primacies was normal.
 
Originally Posted By: supton
I rotate tires myself these days. I found the stealer did not take apart brakes to ensure free sliding action on the pads, thus twice a year I pop 'em apart to lube the pads. Might as well rotate myself and not bother with waiting an hour or whatever during the workweek for a "free" rotation.

Dealership said my 30k lifespan on first Energies and the Primacies was normal.
It's so strange that your car wears out tires. The Beetle went around 50-55k miles on its first 2 sets of Continentals which still had tread left and I changed out the Michelin HydroEdges (very high tread life tire) at 62k miles and they had 6-7/32" of tread still. The Pirellis I got for my car at the end of December have 6,500 miles on them and they still look like brand new, except a little feathering on the front tires, something's getting worn out up front.
 
Originally Posted By: HangFire
Originally Posted By: MCompact
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I like Michelins overall. But in the 1980's I bought all my cars (mustangs,T-Birds) with the Michelin TRX tire system on them,(15.3" Dia) I was told by many that TRX's were the greatest inovation ever in tire tech..... Now these cars just sit, cant be used,becauce of tire availability, Its sad I cant drive these great cars, Some only have less than 20,000 miles.


You must be joking. My E24 M6 also came with TRX tires/wheels; I just switched to 16" wheels and 225/50-16 tires. Problem solved. Finding suitable tires and wheels for an '80s Mustang or T-Bird is even easier.

I assume he's joking/trolling, as replacement rims for Fords are trivial to purchase, but in case someone is genuinely looking for TRX tires, they are available from Coker Tire:

https://www.cokertire.com/michelin-trx.html

Spendy, yes, but if you can afford to have multiple classic cars sitting around doing nothing, then you can afford the tires.

No Hangfire, Im not Trolling or joking, (You must be a major clown to even say that) I have priced the Coker website but I dont feel like spending nearly 2000 dollars per car to have the correct tires. (220-55-390mm) Two of My TRX shod cars are sometimes entered in local and National car shows (MCA Thoughobred Class) and The wrong wheels would be a 100 point deduction on a possible 700 point scale. (Not changing wheels) Im just out of luck when I want to drive (rarely) these cars any longer,as they dont even hold air very well any longer.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: supton
I rotate tires myself these days. I found the stealer did not take apart brakes to ensure free sliding action on the pads, thus twice a year I pop 'em apart to lube the pads. Might as well rotate myself and not bother with waiting an hour or whatever during the workweek for a "free" rotation.

Dealership said my 30k lifespan on first Energies and the Primacies was normal.
It's so strange that your car wears out tires. The Beetle went around 50-55k miles on its first 2 sets of Continentals which still had tread left and I changed out the Michelin HydroEdges (very high tread life tire) at 62k miles and they had 6-7/32" of tread still. The Pirellis I got for my car at the end of December have 6,500 miles on them and they still look like brand new, except a little feathering on the front tires, something's getting worn out up front.


Those Michelins were on my Camry. Jetta tends to do 40k, although I just had a set of enTyres do 50k. Rough roads up here I guess.
 
Originally Posted By: Throt
Well unfortunately history shows that when the "father" of the company passes, everything goes to heck. But hopefully Michelin can defy that.

Honda founder passed many years ago and Honda is doing well today.
 
I have Michelin tires on my Buick, love them, 50K miles, 1/2 worn.

Just put Michelin Pilot road 4 on my motorcycle and WOW. Even rain slick roads, I still slow down but the traction is amazing.

Wet or dry.

Rod
 
Originally Posted By: MCompact
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I like Michelins overall. But in the 1980's I bought all my cars (mustangs,T-Birds) with the Michelin TRX tire system on them,(15.3" Dia) I was told by many that TRX's were the greatest inovation ever in tire tech..... Now these cars just sit, cant be used,becauce of tire availability, Its sad I cant drive these great cars, Some only have less than 20,000 miles.


You must be joking. My E24 M6 also came with TRX tires/wheels; I just switched to 16" wheels and 225/50-16 tires. Problem solved. Finding suitable tires and wheels for an '80s Mustang or T-Bird is even easier.


Yes, they even make the (GREAT looking) Stang Cobra replica wheels in the 4 bolt pattern, even in 17s!!

RE; Shot Gun; why don't you just show them with the TRXes, and then swap to a replica wheel with modern tires to drive them??
 
Originally Posted By: ragtoplvr


Just put Michelin Pilot road 4 on my motorcycle and WOW. Even rain slick roads, I still slow down but the traction is amazing


Yep. I don't know about their car tyres, but Michelin make great bike tyres! PR4's are awesome.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: krzyss
I thought that Michelin Pilot Super Sport are decent in wet.

Krzys


Decent? They are absolutely fantastic in the wet.

Agree. Third season on car, two of them 5/32, two 6/32, and not only that they handle on wet like crazy, but they go through piles of water like nothing. Still cannot figure out how they did it.
 
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I like Michelins overall. But in the 1980's I bought all my cars (mustangs,T-Birds) with the Michelin TRX tire system on them,(15.3" Dia) I was told by many that TRX's were the greatest inovation ever in tire tech..... Now these cars just sit, cant be used,becauce of tire availability, Its sad I cant drive these great cars, Some only have less than 20,000 miles.


Coker has replacement TRX tires (in the Mustang's 220/55R390 size), and standard wheels are a direct swap.
 
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
Originally Posted By: HangFire
Originally Posted By: MCompact
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I like Michelins overall. But in the 1980's I bought all my cars (mustangs,T-Birds) with the Michelin TRX tire system on them,(15.3" Dia) I was told by many that TRX's were the greatest inovation ever in tire tech..... Now these cars just sit, cant be used,becauce of tire availability, Its sad I cant drive these great cars, Some only have less than 20,000 miles.


You must be joking. My E24 M6 also came with TRX tires/wheels; I just switched to 16" wheels and 225/50-16 tires. Problem solved. Finding suitable tires and wheels for an '80s Mustang or T-Bird is even easier.

I assume he's joking/trolling, as replacement rims for Fords are trivial to purchase, but in case someone is genuinely looking for TRX tires, they are available from Coker Tire:

https://www.cokertire.com/michelin-trx.html

Spendy, yes, but if you can afford to have multiple classic cars sitting around doing nothing, then you can afford the tires.

No Hangfire, Im not Trolling or joking, (You must be a major clown to even say that) I have priced the Coker website but I dont feel like spending nearly 2000 dollars per car to have the correct tires. (220-55-390mm) Two of My TRX shod cars are sometimes entered in local and National car shows (MCA Thoughobred Class) and The wrong wheels would be a 100 point deduction on a possible 700 point scale. (Not changing wheels) Im just out of luck when I want to drive (rarely) these cars any longer,as they dont even hold air very well any longer.


You want to drive those cars? Pony up for a set of regular rims and keep the TRX's for the shows. Too much money to spend to both show and enjoy? You're in the wrong hobby.

You want to show those cars? Pony up for the correct vintage tires. Getting the right vintage tires has always been a pain for car shows. You don't want to spend the money? You're in the wrong hobby. You gotta pay to play that game.

You might as well complain about the cost of keeping a racing yacht or boarding horses. Nobody's going to sympathize with you.
 
Originally Posted By: HangFire

You want to drive those cars? Pony up for a set of regular rims and keep the TRX's for the shows. Too much money to spend to both show and enjoy? You're in the wrong hobby.

You want to show those cars? Pony up for the correct vintage tires. Getting the right vintage tires has always been a pain for car shows. You don't want to spend the money? You're in the wrong hobby. You gotta pay to play that game.

You might as well complain about the cost of keeping a racing yacht or boarding horses. Nobody's going to sympathize with you.


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