What does RR's tattoo say on her ankles ?
Rhonda Rousey gets KOed
- Thread starter grampi
- Start date
- Status
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
Okay so you got me on the 1" punch. My memory isn't what it use to be. Some light reading though, suggested that you still didn't wan't to be on the receiving end of it. Also, I still wouldn't want to have a go-round with Bruce Lee even though I would have 5" and 75lbs on him.
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Okay so you got me on the 1" punch. My memory isn't what it use to be. Some light reading though, suggested that you still didn't wan't to be on the receiving end of it. Also, I still wouldn't want to have a go-round with Bruce Lee even though I would have 5" and 75lbs on him.
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
Honestly Eric...these women are incredible. I give them all the credit they deserve for being very good at what they do. By all appearances, they are great athletes. The skills they have would certainly make them a challenge to any average man. Fact is, most men are out of shape anyway and slow. These women probably could whip more than a few of them. And truth be told, I have a very messed up lower back...so if I was ever stupid enough to get in the ring with one of them, I would look like a fool. But...before I toasted my back? I'd not be afraid of them. Wary? Yes. I would not take them for an average woman.
As for Bruce Lee? hey...I was around back then and remember him well. He was one impressive fella. He was a superior example of the very best and at the highest level of martial arts skills. He was also a decent guy and a credit to the sport and to the film industry.
Okay so you got me on the 1" punch. My memory isn't what it use to be. Some light reading though, suggested that you still didn't wan't to be on the receiving end of it. Also, I still wouldn't want to have a go-round with Bruce Lee even though I would have 5" and 75lbs on him.
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
Honestly Eric...these women are incredible. I give them all the credit they deserve for being very good at what they do. By all appearances, they are great athletes. The skills they have would certainly make them a challenge to any average man. Fact is, most men are out of shape anyway and slow. These women probably could whip more than a few of them. And truth be told, I have a very messed up lower back...so if I was ever stupid enough to get in the ring with one of them, I would look like a fool. But...before I toasted my back? I'd not be afraid of them. Wary? Yes. I would not take them for an average woman.
As for Bruce Lee? hey...I was around back then and remember him well. He was one impressive fella. He was a superior example of the very best and at the highest level of martial arts skills. He was also a decent guy and a credit to the sport and to the film industry.
Originally Posted By: hatt
Is it just me or does she look like that INfamous ice skater named
Tonya Harding? Take a look at her photo from 1991.
Clones or twins.
Is it just me or does she look like that INfamous ice skater named
Tonya Harding? Take a look at her photo from 1991.
Clones or twins.
- Joined
- May 28, 2014
- Messages
- 2,515
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
I'm gonna make this short since you have not a clue.
I've been involved in martial arts a long while and yes it's possible to kill a person in one inch of travel. One shot to your trachea,you can't breathe.
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
I'm gonna make this short since you have not a clue.
I've been involved in martial arts a long while and yes it's possible to kill a person in one inch of travel. One shot to your trachea,you can't breathe.
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Is it just me or does she look like that INfamous ice skater named Tonya Harding?
She looks like Barry Estes; my childhood nemesis.
Is it just me or does she look like that INfamous ice skater named Tonya Harding?
She looks like Barry Estes; my childhood nemesis.
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
^^ This.
I'm 5'11", 210 lbs and work out several times week, biking, weight training, etc.
My 16 year old daughter is 5'7", about 140 lbs, straight-A student and about as intimidating as a teddy bear. And she also happens to be a 2nd degree black belt.
A couple weeks ago while scrapping around with her in front of my wife to show her how big and rough her man still was, I went after my daughter to show her how much size and strength meant more than.....WIFFF WOOOOSH.
My little dainty black belt daughter swung around, pulled some move I wouldn't have though of in a year of Sundays, and had me pinned and immobilized faster than I could yelp for mercy. I literally couldn't moved my arms, she had me completely helpless. My size and relative strength meant nothing, she had the moves, the leverage, and the know-how. She smirked, rolled her eyes, and said "Dad, you aren't going to win this. Give up." She was right, my comparative size and strength meant very little.
You guys thinking the average guy could go up against one of these trained athletic women are living in a bravado fueled fantasy land. Go out on a date with her if you'd like, but don't get into the cage with her, she'll have you dead in 30 seconds, and that's just the cold truth.
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
^^ This.
I'm 5'11", 210 lbs and work out several times week, biking, weight training, etc.
My 16 year old daughter is 5'7", about 140 lbs, straight-A student and about as intimidating as a teddy bear. And she also happens to be a 2nd degree black belt.
A couple weeks ago while scrapping around with her in front of my wife to show her how big and rough her man still was, I went after my daughter to show her how much size and strength meant more than.....WIFFF WOOOOSH.
My little dainty black belt daughter swung around, pulled some move I wouldn't have though of in a year of Sundays, and had me pinned and immobilized faster than I could yelp for mercy. I literally couldn't moved my arms, she had me completely helpless. My size and relative strength meant nothing, she had the moves, the leverage, and the know-how. She smirked, rolled her eyes, and said "Dad, you aren't going to win this. Give up." She was right, my comparative size and strength meant very little.
You guys thinking the average guy could go up against one of these trained athletic women are living in a bravado fueled fantasy land. Go out on a date with her if you'd like, but don't get into the cage with her, she'll have you dead in 30 seconds, and that's just the cold truth.
Originally Posted By: quint
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
^^ This.
I'm 5'11", 210 lbs and work out several times week, biking, weight training, etc.
My 16 year old daughter is 5'7", about 140 lbs, straight-A student and about as intimidating as a teddy bear. And she also happens to be a 2nd degree black belt.
A couple weeks ago while scrapping around with her in front of my wife to show her how big and rough her man still was, I went after my daughter to show her how much size and strength meant more than.....WIFFF WOOOOSH.
My little dainty black belt daughter swung around, pulled some move I wouldn't have though of in a year of Sundays, and had me pinned and immobilized faster than I could yelp for mercy. I literally couldn't moved my arms, she had me completely helpless. My size and relative strength meant nothing, she had the moves, the leverage, and the know-how. She smirked, rolled her eyes, and said "Dad, you aren't going to win this. Give up." She was right, my comparative size and strength meant very little.
You guys thinking the average guy could go up against one of these trained athletic women are living in a bravado fueled fantasy land. Go out on a date with her if you'd like, but don't get into the cage with her, she'll have you dead in 30 seconds, and that's just the cold truth.
Yeah, you would have to pay me a lot to jump in the cage with one of them tomorrow. I might have one chance to rush in, tangle us up and get lucky falling down to some how get on top for a submission, but if that didn't work I'd be beaten on like a slab of beef until she kicked my head off, or taken down and submitted that way.
Give an average 6' guy a few months to train and get some moderate skills going, then his odds get much much better, but a kick to head would still probably knock him out.
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Lots of strength, martial arts experience and ring experience can more than turn the tables in favor of a female. I know you're not the type of person who believes in those sorts of things, but I bet you'd be pretty unpleasantly surprised to have to face off with either of these women, doing any more than straight wrastlin... If you let them use their martial arts experience and allow the use of other less pleasant things that aren't normally allowed when playing around, then your height and weight advantage diminishes very rapidly.
^^ This.
I'm 5'11", 210 lbs and work out several times week, biking, weight training, etc.
My 16 year old daughter is 5'7", about 140 lbs, straight-A student and about as intimidating as a teddy bear. And she also happens to be a 2nd degree black belt.
A couple weeks ago while scrapping around with her in front of my wife to show her how big and rough her man still was, I went after my daughter to show her how much size and strength meant more than.....WIFFF WOOOOSH.
My little dainty black belt daughter swung around, pulled some move I wouldn't have though of in a year of Sundays, and had me pinned and immobilized faster than I could yelp for mercy. I literally couldn't moved my arms, she had me completely helpless. My size and relative strength meant nothing, she had the moves, the leverage, and the know-how. She smirked, rolled her eyes, and said "Dad, you aren't going to win this. Give up." She was right, my comparative size and strength meant very little.
You guys thinking the average guy could go up against one of these trained athletic women are living in a bravado fueled fantasy land. Go out on a date with her if you'd like, but don't get into the cage with her, she'll have you dead in 30 seconds, and that's just the cold truth.
Yeah, you would have to pay me a lot to jump in the cage with one of them tomorrow. I might have one chance to rush in, tangle us up and get lucky falling down to some how get on top for a submission, but if that didn't work I'd be beaten on like a slab of beef until she kicked my head off, or taken down and submitted that way.
Give an average 6' guy a few months to train and get some moderate skills going, then his odds get much much better, but a kick to head would still probably knock him out.
Originally Posted By: RazorsEdge
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
I'm gonna make this short since you have not a clue.
I've been involved in martial arts a long while and yes it's possible to kill a person in one inch of travel. One shot to your trachea,you can't breathe.
Traveling ONE inch will not damage my trachea. It's common sense if you stop dramatizing and realize that a body, wherever you strike it using a fist, can absorb an inch of travel quite easily. I can push my trachea in about three inches before I feel any discomfort. Somebody placing a fist one inch from it it and subsequently moving forward another inch...would most likely make me chuckle. Now if a person started throwing a hit further back and continued THROUGH the strike...then yes, you are talking serious damage.
What difference does it make anyway? I have no problem if you want to believe that. I just don't agree. I hardly think any person, martial artist or not, is going to fight somebody with only an inch distance. That would be foolish.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
I'm gonna make this short since you have not a clue.
I've been involved in martial arts a long while and yes it's possible to kill a person in one inch of travel. One shot to your trachea,you can't breathe.
Traveling ONE inch will not damage my trachea. It's common sense if you stop dramatizing and realize that a body, wherever you strike it using a fist, can absorb an inch of travel quite easily. I can push my trachea in about three inches before I feel any discomfort. Somebody placing a fist one inch from it it and subsequently moving forward another inch...would most likely make me chuckle. Now if a person started throwing a hit further back and continued THROUGH the strike...then yes, you are talking serious damage.
What difference does it make anyway? I have no problem if you want to believe that. I just don't agree. I hardly think any person, martial artist or not, is going to fight somebody with only an inch distance. That would be foolish.
Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Originally Posted By: andrewg
I can push my trachea in about three inches before I feel any discomfort.
You'd make a great fisherman.
Ha ha ha...you know what? You are right about that. No way my trachea will move back three inches.
I was wrong. My apologies. I should not have posted something as fact if I wasn't 100% certain about it.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
I can push my trachea in about three inches before I feel any discomfort.
You'd make a great fisherman.
Ha ha ha...you know what? You are right about that. No way my trachea will move back three inches.
I was wrong. My apologies. I should not have posted something as fact if I wasn't 100% certain about it.
- Joined
- May 28, 2014
- Messages
- 2,515
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: RazorsEdge
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
I'm gonna make this short since you have not a clue.
I've been involved in martial arts a long while and yes it's possible to kill a person in one inch of travel. One shot to your trachea,you can't breathe.
Traveling ONE inch will not damage my trachea. It's common sense if you stop dramatizing and realize that a body, wherever you strike it using a fist, can absorb an inch of travel quite easily. I can push my trachea in about three inches before I feel any discomfort. Somebody placing a fist one inch from it it and subsequently moving forward another inch...would most likely make me chuckle. Now if a person started throwing a hit further back and continued THROUGH the strike...then yes, you are talking serious damage.
What difference does it make anyway? I have no problem if you want to believe that. I just don't agree. I hardly think any person, martial artist or not, is going to fight somebody with only an inch distance. That would be foolish.
Again,you have no idea.
If you hit someone in the chest right over the heart, with the right force and at the right time in the cardiac cycle, you can stop their heart.
If you hit someone in the abdomen, with the right force and in the right place, you can possibly rupture an internal organ, causing them to bleed to death.
And lastly, yes, if you hit someone in the throat, with not even that much force and almost anywhere in the throat, you can collapse their trachea and cause them to suffocate. That's actually a technique in krav maga, where you drive the webbing between your thumb and forefinger into someone's throat as hard as you can.
Lastly,you wouldnt last a second inside a octagon from what you've shown in this thread.
Originally Posted By: RazorsEdge
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Something that I don't think many are considering is that mass and strength don't always go hand in hand. Often times, yes, but not always. Sometimes it's quite disproportionate. Don't think so? Take even the most pedestrian dog and make it truly fear for it's life... You'll have a handful even though it may only weigh 30-50 lbs. What about tying into a 150lb deer? I bet that thing could drag most of us from here to Haites and back. Lots of REALLY strong muscle.
Think those examples don't apply because they're animals? Okay- how about Bruce Lee? 5"7" and 130lbs. Would anyone here want a go at him if he were alive and in his prime? Bet not. The man was so strong it was said his punch could kill with only 1" of travel before contact. That's no joke either.
My point- Rhonda or Holly at 134lbs could more than likely decimate quite a few men bigger than them simply because they are tough, strong elite athletes.
I'm sorry Eric, but much about Bruce Lee was a myth. That myth was exaggerated because of his odd death. No person...NONE can kill a person in one inch of travel. The velocity required and the follow through impact strength to cause death is simply impossible to achieve...no matter how astounding his skills were. But could Bruce Lee fight a person much smaller than himself and win? Of course he could. He was an exception because he had skills, training, and abilities rarely seen...especially back then.
Comparing a female, no matter how fit...isn't the same. They have an entirely different set of physical limits and density. The speed of a female is also not close to a male. The muscle structure is different. Yes, it would be possible for one of these women to best a man in a fight...but not a given by any means.
I'm gonna make this short since you have not a clue.
I've been involved in martial arts a long while and yes it's possible to kill a person in one inch of travel. One shot to your trachea,you can't breathe.
Traveling ONE inch will not damage my trachea. It's common sense if you stop dramatizing and realize that a body, wherever you strike it using a fist, can absorb an inch of travel quite easily. I can push my trachea in about three inches before I feel any discomfort. Somebody placing a fist one inch from it it and subsequently moving forward another inch...would most likely make me chuckle. Now if a person started throwing a hit further back and continued THROUGH the strike...then yes, you are talking serious damage.
What difference does it make anyway? I have no problem if you want to believe that. I just don't agree. I hardly think any person, martial artist or not, is going to fight somebody with only an inch distance. That would be foolish.
Again,you have no idea.
If you hit someone in the chest right over the heart, with the right force and at the right time in the cardiac cycle, you can stop their heart.
If you hit someone in the abdomen, with the right force and in the right place, you can possibly rupture an internal organ, causing them to bleed to death.
And lastly, yes, if you hit someone in the throat, with not even that much force and almost anywhere in the throat, you can collapse their trachea and cause them to suffocate. That's actually a technique in krav maga, where you drive the webbing between your thumb and forefinger into someone's throat as hard as you can.
Lastly,you wouldnt last a second inside a octagon from what you've shown in this thread.
From Wikipedia...
"In the television show Mythbusters episode "The One Inch Punch", the technique was tested quantitatively using a force gauge. For comparison, it was matched against a conventional punch thrown with a full wind-up by Jamie Hyneman. The one-inch punch was delivered by Anthony Kelly, a Martial Arts Expert and Master Instructor who had learned the technique from one of Bruce Lee's students. The conventional punch measured 325 pounds of force while the one-inch punch measured 153 pounds. In the absence of a safe method of testing against a human being, the hosts deemed it "plausible" as a combat technique, if the user had proper training and experience.[1]"
Jamie is not exactly what I would consider an in shape, or even remotely athletic gentlemen. Yet, his punch was over twice as powerful as the one-incher.
"In the television show Mythbusters episode "The One Inch Punch", the technique was tested quantitatively using a force gauge. For comparison, it was matched against a conventional punch thrown with a full wind-up by Jamie Hyneman. The one-inch punch was delivered by Anthony Kelly, a Martial Arts Expert and Master Instructor who had learned the technique from one of Bruce Lee's students. The conventional punch measured 325 pounds of force while the one-inch punch measured 153 pounds. In the absence of a safe method of testing against a human being, the hosts deemed it "plausible" as a combat technique, if the user had proper training and experience.[1]"
Jamie is not exactly what I would consider an in shape, or even remotely athletic gentlemen. Yet, his punch was over twice as powerful as the one-incher.
Last edited:
Originally Posted By: DriveHard
From Wikipedia...
"In the television show Mythbusters episode "The One Inch Punch", the technique was tested quantitatively using a force gauge. For comparison, it was matched against a conventional punch thrown with a full wind-up by Jamie Hyneman. The one-inch punch was delivered by Anthony Kelly, a Martial Arts Expert and Master Instructor who had learned the technique from one of Bruce Lee's students. The conventional punch measured 325 pounds of force while the one-inch punch measured 153 pounds. In the absence of a safe method of testing against a human being, the hosts deemed it "plausible" as a combat technique, if the user had proper training and experience.[1]"
Jamie is not exactly what I would consider an in shape, or even remotely athletic gentlemen. Yet, his punch was over twice as powerful as the one-incher.
Well then...at least you've provided some information that may prove my opinion as invalid.
Good enough.
From Wikipedia...
"In the television show Mythbusters episode "The One Inch Punch", the technique was tested quantitatively using a force gauge. For comparison, it was matched against a conventional punch thrown with a full wind-up by Jamie Hyneman. The one-inch punch was delivered by Anthony Kelly, a Martial Arts Expert and Master Instructor who had learned the technique from one of Bruce Lee's students. The conventional punch measured 325 pounds of force while the one-inch punch measured 153 pounds. In the absence of a safe method of testing against a human being, the hosts deemed it "plausible" as a combat technique, if the user had proper training and experience.[1]"
Jamie is not exactly what I would consider an in shape, or even remotely athletic gentlemen. Yet, his punch was over twice as powerful as the one-incher.
Well then...at least you've provided some information that may prove my opinion as invalid.
Good enough.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: DriveHard
From Wikipedia...
"In the television show Mythbusters episode "The One Inch Punch", the technique was tested quantitatively using a force gauge. For comparison, it was matched against a conventional punch thrown with a full wind-up by Jamie Hyneman. The one-inch punch was delivered by Anthony Kelly, a Martial Arts Expert and Master Instructor who had learned the technique from one of Bruce Lee's students. The conventional punch measured 325 pounds of force while the one-inch punch measured 153 pounds. In the absence of a safe method of testing against a human being, the hosts deemed it "plausible" as a combat technique, if the user had proper training and experience.[1]"
Jamie is not exactly what I would consider an in shape, or even remotely athletic gentlemen. Yet, his punch was over twice as powerful as the one-incher.
Well then...at least you've provided some information that may prove my opinion as invalid.
Good enough.
Funny...I was thinking the opposite. IMHO, this shows that while it might be a combat technique, the likelihood of killing someone with a one inch punch seems low. A trained boxing professional can punch in the 900 to 1000 pound force range...and Jamie is down in the 350 pound range...and the one inch punch down in the 150 pound range. I'm not saying it is IMPOSSIBLE to kill someone with a one inch punch...just seems very unlikely. IMHO of course.
Originally Posted By: DriveHard
From Wikipedia...
"In the television show Mythbusters episode "The One Inch Punch", the technique was tested quantitatively using a force gauge. For comparison, it was matched against a conventional punch thrown with a full wind-up by Jamie Hyneman. The one-inch punch was delivered by Anthony Kelly, a Martial Arts Expert and Master Instructor who had learned the technique from one of Bruce Lee's students. The conventional punch measured 325 pounds of force while the one-inch punch measured 153 pounds. In the absence of a safe method of testing against a human being, the hosts deemed it "plausible" as a combat technique, if the user had proper training and experience.[1]"
Jamie is not exactly what I would consider an in shape, or even remotely athletic gentlemen. Yet, his punch was over twice as powerful as the one-incher.
Well then...at least you've provided some information that may prove my opinion as invalid.
Good enough.
Funny...I was thinking the opposite. IMHO, this shows that while it might be a combat technique, the likelihood of killing someone with a one inch punch seems low. A trained boxing professional can punch in the 900 to 1000 pound force range...and Jamie is down in the 350 pound range...and the one inch punch down in the 150 pound range. I'm not saying it is IMPOSSIBLE to kill someone with a one inch punch...just seems very unlikely. IMHO of course.
- Status
