Report no TOP TIER™ Logo at Station

Kira said:
It seems like a half-baked loaf from many angles.
1) How often was the additive package advertised to any detail throughout your driving life? Not too often.
2) Even the established brands of good fuel (Conoco-Phillips, Sunoco, Shell, Amoco/BP) DON'T display a TT sticker....EVER.
3) Ever notice how sloppily the TT stickers are applied? They're always crooked. Whether you know it or not, logo art involves placement and borders, not just the logo itself.
4) Am I the only one who thinks the TT logo is very badly designed? I really think the logo stinks.
5) Has it occurred to anyone that more prominent TT stickering or a swinging sign might just scare price-shopping fuel buyers away?

The link between a product of improved quality and notification to the consumer isn't there.

Next time you're gassing up, ask some frazzed momma if she knows about fuel additives.
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2) Even the established brands of good fuel (Conoco-Phillips, Sunoco, Shell, Amoco/BP) DON'T display a TT sticker....EVER.

100% False. All Shell stations are supposed to be Top Tier. Most of the ones around me do display the stickers on the pumps, but one I pass every day does not. I have reported them but nothing has changed.
 
Mandated stickers on pumps is more like the highway speed limit. Often ignored.

I even have a station near me that has old stickers on its road fuel diesel pumps saying it is 500 ppm sulfur, when the legal limit has been 15 ppm, for many years.
 
jtwrace said:
I filled up today at a Sunoco station (also verified on the Top Tier list). While the pump was filling very slowly, I was looking at the pumps and noticed there were no “Top Tier” stickers displayed. I didn’t realize this was something that could be reported until I got home and, out of curiosity, found the link circled in red.

https://www.toptiergas.com/report-a-station/

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It's like the IRS for gasoline. :ROFLMAO:
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Maybe the it's due to the transition to TT+ and the new stickers haven't arrived?
 
Hall said:
It may have changed, but in the past, the TT organization claimed that if the station is on their "list", they MUST sell Top Tier gasoline. My question, "or what?". There's no enforcement.
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To be clear, Top Tier isn't a brand of gasoline. It is a minimum fuel additive standard which goes above and beyond the EPA's LAC standard.
 
rstcso said:
To be clear, Top Tier isn't a brand of gasoline. It is a minimum fuel additive standard which goes above and beyond the EPA's LAC standard.
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So, how exactly does this work, per my example of a Shell station not displaying TT logo? Can we reasonably assume that all Shell gasoline is TT, and some stations just choose not to display the logo? OR is there some way that a Shell station is selling Shell gasoline that is not TT?
 
Hall said:
It may have changed, but in the past, the TT organization claimed that if the station is on their "list", they MUST sell Top Tier gasoline. My question, "or what?". There's no enforcement.

90+ % of people don't care or more accurately, know what it means, so in the end, it means nothing. It's like advertising beer at state minimum prices (this might just be an Ohio thing) but I'm not buying beer. I don't care.

Please don't encourage them. Remember, there are folks here who creepily hang out in the oil aisle at Walmart and "educate" people on which oil they should buy for their car and why they need it. They'll probably offer to change their oil every 3000 miles too !
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It may have changed, but in the past, the TT organization claimed that if the station is on their "list", they MUST sell Top Tier gasoline. My question, "or what?". There's no enforcement.

I would assume there is a legal, contractual agreement, and the TT organization could pursue action through the courts if they so desired. I have no idea if they ever do this, or if it is worth their time.
 
We've had discussions about whether Sunoco was still TT in past threads. Seemed to be on-again, off-again, possibly related to the company not wanting to pay the associated fees to have the rating.
 
mojoe said:
100% False.
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1) It's 100% true in my experience.
2) And yes, I should've been clearer....I should've pointed out that I have not seen every gas pump in the country.
3) Now that I am thinking about it, I think I've seen TT stickers a maximum of twice in my life. The stickers were carelessly applied over rivets or screw heads and were crooked.
Such sloppiness really does make it look like a clown act (a cheap promotion) rather than a label demarking a quantifiable, desirable quality.

On a different note: Has anyone seen the new Sunoco canopy artwork?
The "curved rainbow" is gone in favor of a yellow chevron styled accent.
 
Kira said:
1) It's 100% true in my experience.
2) And yes, I should've been clearer....I should've pointed out that I have not seen every gas pump in the country.
3) Now that I am thinking about it, I think I've seen TT stickers a maximum of twice in my life. The stickers were carelessly applied over rivets or screw heads and were crooked.
Such sloppiness really does make it look like a clown act (a cheap promotion) rather than a label demarking a quantifiable, desirable quality.

On a different note: Has anyone seen the new Sunoco canopy artwork?
The "curved rainbow" is gone in favor of a yellow chevron styled accent.
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2) Even the established brands of good fuel (Conoco-Phillips, Sunoco, Shell, Amoco/BP) DON'T display a TT sticker....EVER.

You said "EVER", with emphasis. You did not qualify it. That is, as a matter of fact, 100% false.

To the extent you are pointing out the "sloppiness" and lack of consistency with regard as to how TT logos are displayed, I agree 100%. I still believe that TT gas provides some real advantages over MOST non-TT gas.
 
just pulled into one of my local Conoco to get gas. sons a bitches...
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K-Man said:
We've had discussions about whether Sunoco was still TT in past threads. Seemed to be on-again, off-again, possibly related to the company not wanting to pay the associated fees to have the rating.
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If it's listed on the TT site, it's TT; it's really that simple. You can even put in the exact station and it will show up.
 
Arc said:
Who cares about Top Tier? I care about price. The next town over from me has gas for 20 cents a gallon cheaper than my town. I drive the extra ten miles for the discount.
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Some would argue that TT Gas is far more important than the oil you run. :)

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As a Jersey resident (we rarely say New Jersey, just Jersey), I never even knew what Top Tier was until seeing a discussion a few months ago on this forum. Since we are the only state that does not pump our own gas, I had never noticed a Top Tier sticker on the pumps. By the time the car is positioned for the attendant to put the hose in the filler neck, my window is generally past the pump itself.
That said, now that I have a little knowledge of what it means, I do buy fuel at stations that I assume to be selling Top Tier gas, usually Shell or Sunoco. I do still on occasion buy bp since their North America headquarters are in my town and I hope they pay their fair share of taxes just like the rest of us do. As an aside, there is currently a Real Estate "For Lease" sign on bp's front lawn so maybe they are moving or maybe since they unloaded Castrol, they have, or will have, some empty space in the building.
 
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