Repair Shop Rant

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Having moved from automobile sales to the parts department, I get to see a whole different side of the industry. I thought that shoppers were jerks, trying dealing with folks in the repair shop! Jeez.

First, very sorry that you broke down in the middle of nowhere. It is 140 miles to the the next town of any size. If you want to take your vehicle there, please feel free to find your way back to the interstate. If you insist that we "work you in", please understand that when you are told it could be a couple of days, it could be a couple of days. No, we don't care where you came from, how big a fish you are in your town, or how much money you have. The local farmer who brought his truck in ahead of you has purchased that vehicle here, three or four before that, and will probably buy three or for more before he dies. In addition, he has them serviced here on a regular basis. We won't push him aside to accomodate you.

Secondly, yes we will replace the failed injector under warranty. No, we will not replace the other three because you feel they "might" fail also. If we replace them and the manufacturer doesn't approve it, guess who pays the bill? We do! If you want to replace them at your cost and take the issue up with the manufacturer, we will gladly replace them. No, we didn't get your vehicle in today. When we told you tomorrow, we meant tomorrow. May not get it in either if you keep calling every two hours to see "how we're coming on it".

Lastly, when we said the cost would be about $x dollars, we meant "about". When we get into the engine and find other problems, you have to pay for those repairs as well. You can't always tell whats wrong with a vehicle until you get into the repair. Yes, it does suck that you have some expensive repairs to make to your vehicle. Not our fault. Do you want us to fix it or slap it back together so you can limp it out of here (after you pay for the repairs thus far, of course)?

Rant over
 
i had to tell a customer once, "look, i didn't design your car, i didn't build your car, and i sure as [censored] didn't break it! so...if you want it repaired it will cost this much."
 
Just wait, Larry. The hits keep on coming.

I can't remember all the fun one's I've experienced over the years.

Rebuilt titles wanting warranty repairs. Turned down by the manufacturer at 3 dealers before they got to us for "goodwill" and want it from us. Obviously, they've never heard of this newfangled thing called "the internet".

6 month old vehicles with junkyard engines, transmissions, and differentials. Rental cars ran until they threw a rod with holes knocked in the oil pan. "I don't know why, it just quit".

A Trans-Am that 1 t-top blew off at 140 mph because they didn't fasten it on correctly. "Sorry sir, that's not warrantable". What????

We've found guns, weed, cocaine, and $10,000 cash in wax paper in cars looking for squeaks and rattles. A drug dealer scaled concertina wire and torched a customer's car because it resembled a rival drug dealer's vehicle. (It wasn't). The sheriff's Tahoe was stolen. A $750,000 motor home was stolen, sold to a drug dealer, who was murdered by another drug dealer because he wanted the motor home.

As for parts, that's a whole 'nother story. I don't know the caliber of the folks GM has pulling orders for them at the warehouses, other than to tell you this one.

We ordered an electrical part for a customer named "Hood". Instead we got a hood for their car.
 
Originally Posted By: otis24
Having moved from automobile sales to the parts department, I get to see a whole different side of the industry. I thought that shoppers were jerks, trying dealing with folks in the repair shop! Jeez.

First, very sorry that you broke down in the middle of nowhere. It is 140 miles to the the next town of any size. If you want to take your vehicle there, please feel free to find your way back to the interstate. If you insist that we "work you in", please understand that when you are told it could be a couple of days, it could be a couple of days. No, we don't care where you came from, how big a fish you are in your town, or how much money you have. The local farmer who brought his truck in ahead of you has purchased that vehicle here, three or four before that, and will probably buy three or for more before he dies. In addition, he has them serviced here on a regular basis. We won't push him aside to accomodate you.

Secondly, yes we will replace the failed injector under warranty. No, we will not replace the other three because you feel they "might" fail also. If we replace them and the manufacturer doesn't approve it, guess who pays the bill? We do! If you want to replace them at your cost and take the issue up with the manufacturer, we will gladly replace them. No, we didn't get your vehicle in today. When we told you tomorrow, we meant tomorrow. May not get it in either if you keep calling every two hours to see "how we're coming on it".

Lastly, when we said the cost would be about $x dollars, we meant "about". When we get into the engine and find other problems, you have to pay for those repairs as well. You can't always tell whats wrong with a vehicle until you get into the repair. Yes, it does suck that you have some expensive repairs to make to your vehicle. Not our fault. Do you want us to fix it or slap it back together so you can limp it out of here (after you pay for the repairs thus far, of course)?

Rant over



If you want sweet people in a great mood, go work for Disney Land.

It's like a shrink complaining all there people are in a bad mood.



Your customers are mad there car is not working. There mad because they have to wait. There mad because they have to put there cash out to get there car working.

Your job is to deal with customers. Thats what you do. Now go forth my son and DEAL with them!!

lol!!
 
Originally Posted By: MrCritical


As for parts, that's a whole 'nother story. I don't know the caliber of the folks GM has pulling orders for them at the warehouses, other than to tell you this one.

We ordered an electrical part for a customer named "Hood". Instead we got a hood for their car.

" Hey Jimmie! Wouldja didja git that hood order filled?"
"Just shipped on da truck boss."
"Good, less go git some wings and beers!"
 
@otis24:


Sounds like you're whining quite a bit here. You had to have had some idea that the service department is dealing with folks that are not in the greatest mood, they sure as heck are not drooling at that shiny new ride you were selling before you took your new position.

Although I agree there needs to be consideration on BOTH sides of the counter ....it works BOTH ways....I'll NEVER ever understand why people think that being rude and obnoxious is going to make anything work out for the better, if anything it usually makes it harder on YOU, not the person you are dumping on.

But you clearly need to grow thicker skin or else you are in the wrong line of work. Good luck.
 
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the OP is in SD on the way to mt. rushmore. tourists who break down need their car asap or their vacation is ruined!
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To be sure, I do DEAL with my customers in a courteous manner. Never have I been rude or obnoxious to them. But NEVER will I understand the mentality of some people who come into a repair shop with the attitude of "O.K people, listen up! "I" am here. Now, I now you don't know who "I" am, but please pull your head out of your arse and take my word for it, "I" am someone. Now stop whatever it is your doing, drop the jobs you are doing for these insignificant nobodies, and put ME to the front of the line. I want it fixed yesterday, and I want all covered under warranty (you know, the bumper to bumper warranty that expird about 6 months, 8000 miles ago) got it!". While you may think I am being a little far fetched, this is the attitude that many people come in with. How such people actually exist and get along in life with this kind of attitude is simply beyond me. Albeit, I can tell from some of the posts here that people with such attitude are actually finding a sympathetic ear. What was that about "birds of a feather"?
 
The thing is, usually, retail and retail services are a dime a dozen. Frankly, if I dont like your dealership, I wont go there again - you lost my business.

It is no excuse to walk in and act like a king... and a little pleasantry surely does go a long way, but the customer still is king.

People are often rude. I wouldnt want to work in a position like that because Im sure that no matter how well, nice and detailed a job you do explaining the situation, they will always have an issue.

That said, your job is in making customers happy. If, and especially if, you get a customer whose car is under WARRANTY, I'd kind of expect that other things get dropped for it. I know that the manufacturers dont pay as well for this kind of service and all, but for better or worse, YOU are the face and rep for the car brand you work for. If the car has had a failed part under warranty (that needed to be towed no less), strike one and two. Someone who provides less than stellar service throws that strike three. The reason is that the car has a warranty. People buy new cars because they expect a trouble free period when the car is under warranty. Their money has been taken and their faith shattered.

Im not saying this is an excuse, but you do need to walk a bit in the other persons' shoes.

And remember that the customer is always right... But they dont have the right to act like a pompous, rude idiot just because this is the case.

Also remember that if someone really is towed in hundrds of miles away from home, they are having a REALLY bad day already... Your actions can make or break that situation, so try to do the right thing.
 
Actually, we DID do the right thing. Hopefully, nothing in my first post conveyed anything other than my disdain for the customers attitude. I am writing this post from a C-store where I fill in once in a while. My service tech just came in. He just clocked out at around 10:30 p.m He took a short dinner break and went back to get some jobs finished so he can get the customer in tomorrow who is the subject of this post.

Let's see if I can re-phrase the situation. I'll go slow. We are a small dealership in the middle of nowhere. We have one diesel tech. He already had five jobs lined up. The owners of those vehicles want there trucks back just as badly as the next guy. The customer in question came in MONDAY (that was yesterday). He was told that we were booked up couldn't get him in until Wednsday (that's tomorrow). He was told where the next nearest repair facility was located. He CHOSE to wait for us to get to it on WEDNESDAY (that's tomorrow). This evening he came in upset that we hadn't got to it yet. The likely problem is a failed injector. He wants all four injectors replaced because he feels if one failed, the others might too. Firstly, the guy is from the west coast. He didn't buy it here, has probably never been this way before, and will probably never be through here again. As much as I/we understand his feelings, someone has to pay for those injectors. If we put them in without Ford's approval (they will only warranty the failed injector), it comes out of OUR pocket, not his, not Ford's. It's like being short changed at Wal-Mart and stopping at the Wal-Mart in the next town and saying "Well, they shorted me $10 at the Wal-Mart back there, just give me $10 out of your register. You are all Wal-Marts right?" We may sell Ford products, but we are not Ford.
Inspite of his rude behavior and having been very clear on what we could do and when we could do it, we were very courteous to him. In additon, our tech worked late and other jobs are being put on hold. What I simply meant to convey was that no matter how clear and courteous you are to some people, they are just plain horses asses.
 
and I would totally agree with you.

Originally Posted By: otis24
Actually, we DID do the right thing. Hopefully, nothing in my first post conveyed anything other than my disdain for the customers attitude. I am writing this post from a C-store where I fill in once in a while. My service tech just came in. He just clocked out at around 10:30 p.m He took a short dinner break and went back to get some jobs finished so he can get the customer in tomorrow who is the subject of this post.

Let's see if I can re-phrase the situation. I'll go slow. We are a small dealership in the middle of nowhere. We have one diesel tech. He already had five jobs lined up. The owners of those vehicles want there trucks back just as badly as the next guy. The customer in question came in MONDAY (that was yesterday). He was told that we were booked up couldn't get him in until Wednsday (that's tomorrow). He was told where the next nearest repair facility was located. He CHOSE to wait for us to get to it on WEDNESDAY (that's tomorrow). This evening he came in upset that we hadn't got to it yet. The likely problem is a failed injector. He wants all four injectors replaced because he feels if one failed, the others might too. Firstly, the guy is from the west coast. He didn't buy it here, has probably never been this way before, and will probably never be through here again. As much as I/we understand his feelings, someone has to pay for those injectors. If we put them in without Ford's approval (they will only warranty the failed injector), it comes out of OUR pocket, not his, not Ford's. It's like being short changed at Wal-Mart and stopping at the Wal-Mart in the next town and saying "Well, they shorted me $10 at the Wal-Mart back there, just give me $10 out of your register. You are all Wal-Marts right?" We may sell Ford products, but we are not Ford.
Inspite of his rude behavior and having been very clear on what we could do and when we could do it, we were very courteous to him. In additon, our tech worked late and other jobs are being put on hold. What I simply meant to convey was that no matter how clear and courteous you are to some people, they are just plain horses asses.
 
It just comes with the territory when working with the public.

When we started laying off people in the recession, I inherited the job of "scheduler & dispatcher" in addition to my other duties. We've had the same rule for decades; call us by 3:30PM to get your technician scheduled for the next day. So invariably I get jobsites that call at 5:15 that need a guy tomorrow at 7AM, or worse, the guy that leaves a message at 5AM and lies by saying "oh, I was hoping I'd catch you before you went home". LOL The voice mail tells me what time you called! I try to accomodate everyone but the worst ones are the guys who call in late and even after I re-arrange three guys schedules so that one of them can go to the late caller's job; the caller keeps calling me wanting to know when my guy is going to show! Dude, he'll be there as soon as he can; I've already moved heaven and earth to get you a guy today - any guy. Be patient.

Its not worth worrying about.
 
I have found 1 constant in over 30 years of sales, service,parts, and management in all 3.

The really irate customers? They're not really that angry at a failure of the car.

The wife/husband yelled at them last night. They just lost their job. They're getting a divorce. They just got a speeding ticket/dui. They just found out their daughter is pregnant or their son is going to be a dad. A problem with the car just gives them something to focus their anger on.

If you can be calm and get past that initial blowup, all will be ok. Most people understand that machines screw up from time to time.

There is that occasional meth/crack/crank head to deal with, but that's another story...
 
Originally Posted By: MrCritical
I have found 1 constant in over 30 years of sales, service,parts, and management in all 3.

The really irate customers? They're not really that angry at a failure of the car.

The wife/husband yelled at them last night. They just lost their job. They're getting a divorce. They just got a speeding ticket/dui. They just found out their daughter is pregnant or their son is going to be a dad. A problem with the car just gives them something to focus their anger on.

If you can be calm and get past that initial blowup, all will be ok. Most people understand that machines screw up from time to time.

There is that occasional meth/crack/crank head to deal with, but that's another story...

+1 I find too, if I explain the reason why I'm saying no to their request, and that my manger will also say no for those reasons, then they usually calm down and accept the situation for what it is.
 
I've always found that the best way to start a conversation with someone who can fix a vehicle under warranty is usually as simple as:

"I was wondering if you might be able to help me out with this situation I am in."

Then you simply describe where you are in life that day.

If you're on a cross country trip from California, and you broke down in the middle of nowhere with a bad fuel injector, and you have to be back to work in California on day X, you explain that very politely.

I have yet to ever experience anything but sympathy from the service writer on the other side of the counter, and they then give me their best estimate of when they might be able to start work on my vehicle.

Every now and again, you have trouble with a vehicle that just does not want to work correctly. My gf's Ducati 696 was one of those vehicles.

But that's not the service writer's fault, now is it?
So why would I give the service writer a hard time?

I never ask anyone to go above and beyond what's actually possible, nor do I ever make demands for more than what I'm entitled to. Usually, I get better service for being nice and patient than I expect.

Only on the rare occasions do I wind up getting garbage back, like interior panels that are not reinstalled properly, or a brake that wasn't properly adjusted on a rear drum when a tire is changed, and only then do I actually say something to the SR.

Usually along the lines of "Hey, I noticed that the tech didn't do X. I'm sure he was rushed when he was putting things back together to get the vehicle back to me, but do you think you can have someone finish this up real quick?"

And yes, I have had to say those words before. Rear drum brake on three separate motorcycles at one dealer after tire replacements. Trunk interior panels on my gf's Crossfire after they were tracing wires to find an electrical fault for several months. Scratched up frame on the 696 after many fixes on the bike to resolve the CEL.

The bike dealer actually went so far as to pull the entire frame off the bike, sent it out to their custom painter friend, who then powder coated the entire frame with a slightly different paint with a bit of metallic flake in it, and the frame added so much extra to the whole look of the bike that the whole issue with the CEL was completely forgotten.

I knew the dealer was doing everything it could to help us, and was being restricted by DNA (Ducati North America) into taking so much longer to resolve the bike's issue, but after everything was said and done, many months later, the bike worked flawlessly, and we still loved our dealer, and their service department.

Being mean to service people isn't going to make them want to help you any faster, and usually makes things go in the wrong direction, pretty quick.

BC.
 
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