Remove Filter for Each OCI ?

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I'm going to try my best to fight it and keep my oversized Fram Ultra on for a total of 15,000 miles.


Just out of curiosity, how many miles would you say the regular size XG3387A is good for ?


Fram says all the Ultras are rated for "up to 15K" regardless of filter size.

On Fram's website, it says about the Ultra.
"Ultimate dual-layer synthetic media provides up to 15,000 miles of engine protection. 1"

Note 1 says: "Follow recommended change intervals as noted in your vehicle owner's manual."

 

[901Memphis]

If it doesn't handle it I'll know. I'll be doing used oil analysis along the way to monitor insolubles and probably going to cut it open.

The XG3387A has much less media surface area so logic should dictate it would have lower capacity and I might not feel as comforts running that 15k.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
The XG3387A has much less media surface area so logic should dictate it would have lower capacity and I might not feel as comforts running that 15k.


http://fram.com/oil-filters/fram-ultra-synthetic-oil-filter.aspx

Flag note 2 says:
"FRAM Group testing of average filter efficiency and dirt holding capacity using FRAM XG3387A, XG8A, and XG4967 ... "

It was actually part of the test group. Like I said, nothing from Fram says any of the smaller Ultra filters are rated for less than 15K miles.

 

[901Memphis]

Which means I need to go longer than 15k on my practically double oversized XG 3980

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Which means I need to go longer than 15k on my practically double oversized XG 3980

Could be. I'm sure Fram wouldn't advertise "up to 15,000 miles use" unless even their smallest oil filter still delivered to that specification.

 

[Merkava_4]

Will the little filters handle 5,000 miles ?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Will the little filters handle 5,000 miles ?



The little Ultras? If that's what you mean they they should handle 15K as discussed above.

 

[Merkava_4]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
The little Ultras? If that's what you mean they they should handle 15K as discussed above.


Why are these filters so little for anyway ? I've been looking at sizes of oil filters for various cars on O'Reilly's site because they list the dimensions and all the Asian cars like Toyota, Nissan, and Honda, ... the filters are dinky.

 

[Garak]

They are that, and I was skeptical at first, having been brought up on Chevy small blocks and the like. Now, if those filters in use never even approached their dirt handling capacity (unless extreme negligence was the maintenance practice), perhaps we should look at it the other way. They were way too big for what's needed and are a waste of filter medium and metal.

Now, the fact that the Wix 51515 is $4.99 and the one for my G is in the $9 neighborhood, I guess my argument is shot to heck.

We get a small filter and pay more for it.

 

[Merkava_4]

Quote:
Wix 51358
Spin-On Filter
Thread Size: M20X1.50
Top Outside Diameter (In): 2.685 Inch
Bottom Outside Diameter (In): 2.685 Inch
Height (In): 2.782 Inch
Anti-Drainback Valve Included: Yes
Quantity Per Vehicle: 1


Holy smokes !! That's dinky !!

Quote:
Wix 51515
Spin-On Filter
Thread Size: 3/4-16 Inch
Top Outside Diameter (In): 3.660 Inch
Bottom Outside Diameter (In): 3.660 Inch
Height (In): 5.178 Inch
Anti-Drainback Valve Included: Yes
Quantity Per Vehicle: 1


That's a lot better !!

 

[Garak]

Yep, the 51358 is pretty small. But, it has "grown" on me, as it were. Something like that, assuming it's capable of doing the job and I'm confident it can, is a lot easier to handle when squirming around in tight places. I'm a very messy oil changer, and if a filter's smaller size helps me not to fumble the thing and cannonball it into the drain pan, that's a good thing. Part of that, though, may be the fact that Infiniti/Nissan seemed to pay attention and canted the filter in such a way you don't get an armful of oil when loosening the thing, nor do you have to contort yourself to get at the thing, or get near hot exhaust, and so forth.

 

[Merkava_4]

What I'm amazed by is the engine somehow gets enough oil. Seems like such a small filter defies all logic.

 

[Garak]

My original worry had been about dirt holding capacity. My reasoning was the the engineering side of the flow was solved. But, with the absence of filters that have actually plugged up due to anything short of neglect, I guess we just don't have the need.

 

[hatt]

I just use one of these so I can drain the oil out of the filter without taking it off. Insert, remove to drain, then screw it back in.

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^

... do-it-yourself filter drain plug. Not sure if I would feel comfortable doing that to an oil filter.

 

[hatt]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^

... do-it-yourself filter drain plug. Not sure if I would feel comfortable doing that to an oil filter.
But the old oil man. I also put a couple quarts of water in after draining the oil. Crank and let it run for a few seconds then drain again. Gets all the oil out of the passages and what little water is left will evaporate off when the engine gets hot.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: hatt
But the old oil man. I also put a couple quarts of water in after draining the oil. Crank and let it run for a few seconds then drain again. Gets all the oil out of the passages and what little water is left will evaporate off when the engine gets hot.

LOL Good idea, about as good as draining the oil and then briefly starting the engine with the drain plug removed to get more oil out.

 

[subaroo]

Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^

... do-it-yourself filter drain plug. Not sure if I would feel comfortable doing that to an oil filter.
But the old oil man. I also put a couple quarts of water in after draining the oil. Crank and let it run for a few seconds then drain again. Gets all the oil out of the passages and what little water is left will evaporate off when the engine gets hot.


you a funny.....

 

[Dallas69]

I am not sure he was jokeing

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

"One Filter, One OCI!"