Oh yes, I can relate, duaneb9729. Back in the early 80's, my daily driver while employed at the VW dealer was a '66 VW Squareback. Started "jazzing" it up a bit with niceties such as Koni's, 914 steel wheels, Pirelli CN36's, Hurst shifter, and a sweet pair of Cibie' Z-beams. Wow, what an improvement, as this lamps main focus was its low beam characteristics and after a re-wire job from the fuse box forward, I had about 4 lanes of white light, even on the freeways of Los Angeles. Then when I went for a ride up on the Palos Verdes peninsula where street lighting was nil, I most definetely did not have a need for any auxillary lighting. Boy, those were the days. But now, I just bought a pair of the 7" round Cibie's from Daniel Stern Lighting along with a pair of H4+50 bulbs, and a relay kit for my '71 VW bus. Can not wait to install. I have always used some sort of e-code lights but I guess what I want to say is the quality of the Cibie' and Marchal lights were outstanding. Bill