Red Line and 1500 miles

[deven]

Finally got to changing out my factory fill oil in the 2009 TL to Red Line with 1450 miles on the ODO. Its well known that Red Line throws high wear numbers when you first start using this oil, so do you guys think that it would throw high wear numbers on a new engine? I know wear number are high during break-in but with the factory fill out, I would think they would go down drastically. What do you think?

P.S. I will have a UOA of the FF and also of the first Red Line run. The red line run wont be until a year from now since I only put about 4000 miles a year on this car.

 

[webfors]

wear metals should report lower than FF for sure, regardless of oil. I would do a couple short runs with any oil before going a full year on your first oci after the FF.

 

[BuickGN]

I put no weight in UOAs for wear anyway but there's especially no need during the break-in process. Going by the explanation of why Redline throws the higher numbers it seems like it wouldn't be as drastically high as on on high mileage engine that's switched over. I wouldn't bother with a UOA unless you're going to push the OCI. You have one of the best oils out there.

 

[deven]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
I put no weight in UOAs for wear anyway but there's especially no need during the break-in process. Going by the explanation of why Redline throws the higher numbers it seems like it wouldn't be as drastically high as on on high mileage engine that's switched over. I wouldn't bother with a UOA unless you're going to push the OCI. You have one of the best oils out there.


The only reason why I bother to do a UOA is because I like to trend the engine. It's become more of an expensive hobby for me. I agree the wear metals should be lower since its a brand new engine but you never know. It will be interesting. I may just drive aimlessly just to get the OLM to 15% so I can change it sooner and get the results. This is FUN!!!!

 

[BuickGN]

Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: BuickGN
I put no weight in UOAs for wear anyway but there's especially no need during the break-in process. Going by the explanation of why Redline throws the higher numbers it seems like it wouldn't be as drastically high as on on high mileage engine that's switched over. I wouldn't bother with a UOA unless you're going to push the OCI. You have one of the best oils out there.


The only reason why I bother to do a UOA is because I like to trend the engine. It's become more of an expensive hobby for me. I agree the wear metals should be lower since its a brand new engine but you never know. It will be interesting. I may just drive aimlessly just to get the OLM to 15% so I can change it sooner and get the results. This is FUN!!!!


You've definitely got my curiosity. I'll be watching for that UOA. I think it's safe to say you will be the first with a Redline UOA on a car with such low miles. It will be interesting to see if the metals go way down or stay the same/up.

 

[JohnBrowning]

I am makeing a judgment call not based on fact just my gut! I do not think their is going to be too much out of wackproably just Aluminum and maybe lead! I di not thinkthe other's willr ead off because their has not been enough time yet for them to develop significant oxidation. I am assumeing production parts are made by their suppliers and then shipped justin time for assembly if so they should be without oxidation? THis is just a guess. The reason I am thinking aluminum will still be high is simply due to the nature of aluminum depending on how dense they pour their molds ie porus or non porus and what allow they use their could be lots of oxidation just from the casting process that wouldnot be removed with washing with water and such. For instance GM intake manfolds are like chalk they have so many pin holes in them in fact they weight about 1/3 what a typical Toyota manifold the same size made out of aluminum would weight. So in that case the GM part would read more oxidation then the Toyota part even if no wear is occuring just because their is more total surface area due to the the porus nature of the cast for the Redline to work on? You follow me.....Bearing are the same way lead and aluminum form oxides so easily that if the bearing where sitting in a warehouse for a month they would have oxidation on them........ Usualy steel parts if not coated with something to prevent rust and oxidation will be oiled and wraped in corrision resitant paper until used.