Took a while, but you finally sucked mori in....
Receipt checks at Walmart
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Naw, Gary was just waiting to get even.
Mori sayeth: "They ask for your birthday even if you look 103!"
Mori doth?
Mori doth?
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Yes, I look 103. That's how I get away with so much [censored].
Next time bring a BAG FULL of receipts, and hand it to the security guy when he asks to check your receipt.
I use Walmart for two sole purposes. Buying organic milk and buying diapers.
I have been asked once in a blue moon at door to show receipt but simply keep walking and pretend to attend to my 2 year old. The checker(older person) simply gives up.
I have been asked once in a blue moon at door to show receipt but simply keep walking and pretend to attend to my 2 year old. The checker(older person) simply gives up.
Down where I live, most people only speak spanish. As I walk by, the lady says something to me in spanish, as I walk past her I say, "I don't speak spanish" and keep walking.
I always let them check the receipt if they want. One time the door buzzer went off, and old guy who always mans the door came over to check my receipt (I've been going there for over 5 years and he knows me by sight). I hand over the receipt (over $120.00 worth of stuff-cart filled really high). Guy looks at receipt and says, "You bought enough stuff, go on." (I think he was just to lazy to go through the cart and check everything).
I swear I'm going to keep quiet. I really am.
Originally Posted By: wantin150
I swear I'm going to keep quiet. I really am.
Safer that way....
I swear I'm going to keep quiet. I really am.
Safer that way....
Originally Posted By: tackleberry625
In FL, if an alarm goes off as you walk out the door of a store and an employee from that store tells you to stop and you don't, then you can be arrested to resisting a retail merchant.
Based on the law you posted, that's only true IF you actually stole something. If you didn't and the alarm just went off because someone didn't do their job and disable the inventory control tag, that law does not apply.
In FL, if an alarm goes off as you walk out the door of a store and an employee from that store tells you to stop and you don't, then you can be arrested to resisting a retail merchant.
Based on the law you posted, that's only true IF you actually stole something. If you didn't and the alarm just went off because someone didn't do their job and disable the inventory control tag, that law does not apply.
Once you buy something, it's YOURS. You do not have to "prove" anything, except to law enforcement, and only if there is an allegation of a crime. It's MINE, leave me alone. When someone accuses you, they better be right, because that could have civil implications. That's how I understand it, the store HAS to be right to force a search or detainment. When asked if they could "see" my reciept, I say "no, because it's in my pocket and you don't have x-ray vision".
With a majpr purchase where you know they have a checker at the door, like Best Buy, I'll show the reciept. It's usually a single purchase that I made and it's not a big deal to take a second to verify everything. Stopping me after a long session of grocery shopping, after I waited in line and paid in PLAIN SIGHT of everyone in the store....no, it's too much of a burden and inappropriate.
Homie Depot came to my Phila neighbourhood. People were happy to have the convenience and savings of a big suppiler, plus developmant of the Deleware Riverfront. HD started checking reciepts, aggressively. They followed you to your car, blocked you in with carts, etc. Lucky the times it happened we had 2 people, one to move the cars and one to move the car. Pretty serious stuff. Funny though, their suburban stores did NOT check reciepts. One time, I bought baby shower gift, an air cleaner. Did/would not show my reciept. The security sicked a Phila cop on me, who was just lingering there. I said "no". "Store Policy", quoted the cop. I said you are not here to enforce "store policy", put rather to protect citizens. I asked WHO alledged I comitted a CRIME? He still detained me, and I finally caved-in. I regreted doing that. Went to see his supervisor the next day. He handled it better and explained that it all was part of the deal to get big stores to develop in the city, they expected the cops to (essentially) enforce "store policy". I said, "so you conspired to deny people their rights"? I was shown the door, point made.
If you let them treat everyone like a criminal, and then we are all living in a jail.
With a majpr purchase where you know they have a checker at the door, like Best Buy, I'll show the reciept. It's usually a single purchase that I made and it's not a big deal to take a second to verify everything. Stopping me after a long session of grocery shopping, after I waited in line and paid in PLAIN SIGHT of everyone in the store....no, it's too much of a burden and inappropriate.
Homie Depot came to my Phila neighbourhood. People were happy to have the convenience and savings of a big suppiler, plus developmant of the Deleware Riverfront. HD started checking reciepts, aggressively. They followed you to your car, blocked you in with carts, etc. Lucky the times it happened we had 2 people, one to move the cars and one to move the car. Pretty serious stuff. Funny though, their suburban stores did NOT check reciepts. One time, I bought baby shower gift, an air cleaner. Did/would not show my reciept. The security sicked a Phila cop on me, who was just lingering there. I said "no". "Store Policy", quoted the cop. I said you are not here to enforce "store policy", put rather to protect citizens. I asked WHO alledged I comitted a CRIME? He still detained me, and I finally caved-in. I regreted doing that. Went to see his supervisor the next day. He handled it better and explained that it all was part of the deal to get big stores to develop in the city, they expected the cops to (essentially) enforce "store policy". I said, "so you conspired to deny people their rights"? I was shown the door, point made.
If you let them treat everyone like a criminal, and then we are all living in a jail.
Once I pay for something and put the receipt into my pocket, it's mine; they'll have to chase me out into the parking lot; once out into the parking lot, good luck trying to tackle me; it would be like trying to tackle a Hummer.
Merkava-lol!
Audi Junkie, can you not spare the 5W-10 seconds it would take to show them your receipt? Oops! Did I bring that typo up again?
I have to agree with you on the receipt checking at some stores. I usually forget about this PIA and have the receipt all tucked away in a certain place and then have to dig it out and figure out which one is the current one for that transaction, all while juggling stuff, kids, cell phone, etc. Me thinks I will take your example and just say no, sorry, got it all put away already.
Audi Junkie, can you not spare the 5W-10 seconds it would take to show them your receipt? Oops! Did I bring that typo up again?
I have to agree with you on the receipt checking at some stores. I usually forget about this PIA and have the receipt all tucked away in a certain place and then have to dig it out and figure out which one is the current one for that transaction, all while juggling stuff, kids, cell phone, etc. Me thinks I will take your example and just say no, sorry, got it all put away already.
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Once you buy something, it's YOURS. You do not have to "prove" anything, except to law enforcement, and only if there is an allegation of a crime. It's MINE, leave me alone. When someone accuses you, they better be right, because that could have civil implications. That's how I understand it, the store HAS to be right to force a search or detainment. When asked if they could "see" my reciept, I say "no, because it's in my pocket and you don't have x-ray vision".
With a majpr purchase where you know they have a checker at the door, like Best Buy, I'll show the reciept. It's usually a single purchase that I made and it's not a big deal to take a second to verify everything. Stopping me after a long session of grocery shopping, after I waited in line and paid in PLAIN SIGHT of everyone in the store....no, it's too much of a burden and inappropriate.
Homie Depot came to my Phila neighbourhood. People were happy to have the convenience and savings of a big suppiler, plus developmant of the Deleware Riverfront. HD started checking reciepts, aggressively. They followed you to your car, blocked you in with carts, etc. Lucky the times it happened we had 2 people, one to move the cars and one to move the car. Pretty serious stuff. Funny though, their suburban stores did NOT check reciepts. One time, I bought baby shower gift, an air cleaner. Did/would not show my reciept. The security sicked a Phila cop on me, who was just lingering there. I said "no". "Store Policy", quoted the cop. I said you are not here to enforce "store policy", put rather to protect citizens. I asked WHO alledged I comitted a CRIME? He still detained me, and I finally caved-in. I regreted doing that. Went to see his supervisor the next day. He handled it better and explained that it all was part of the deal to get big stores to develop in the city, they expected the cops to (essentially) enforce "store policy". I said, "so you conspired to deny people their rights"? I was shown the door, point made.
If you let them treat everyone like a criminal, and then we are all living in a jail.
Actually, I don't think you have to prove you are innocent. They have to prove you are guilty.
So I wonder what would happen if you were to ask for them to indicate what makes them think that you have stolen something?
Failure to show your receipt is NOT evidence that you stole something.
In reality, in the grand scheme of life, it's probably not worth the hassle to make a stand for this at the store that wants to see the receipt.
I guess if you really wanted to make a scene, just turn around, go to the returns desk, and return everything, telling them you don't care to shop somewhere where you are presumed to be guilty of shoplifting.
And then never shop there again.
Once you buy something, it's YOURS. You do not have to "prove" anything, except to law enforcement, and only if there is an allegation of a crime. It's MINE, leave me alone. When someone accuses you, they better be right, because that could have civil implications. That's how I understand it, the store HAS to be right to force a search or detainment. When asked if they could "see" my reciept, I say "no, because it's in my pocket and you don't have x-ray vision".
With a majpr purchase where you know they have a checker at the door, like Best Buy, I'll show the reciept. It's usually a single purchase that I made and it's not a big deal to take a second to verify everything. Stopping me after a long session of grocery shopping, after I waited in line and paid in PLAIN SIGHT of everyone in the store....no, it's too much of a burden and inappropriate.
Homie Depot came to my Phila neighbourhood. People were happy to have the convenience and savings of a big suppiler, plus developmant of the Deleware Riverfront. HD started checking reciepts, aggressively. They followed you to your car, blocked you in with carts, etc. Lucky the times it happened we had 2 people, one to move the cars and one to move the car. Pretty serious stuff. Funny though, their suburban stores did NOT check reciepts. One time, I bought baby shower gift, an air cleaner. Did/would not show my reciept. The security sicked a Phila cop on me, who was just lingering there. I said "no". "Store Policy", quoted the cop. I said you are not here to enforce "store policy", put rather to protect citizens. I asked WHO alledged I comitted a CRIME? He still detained me, and I finally caved-in. I regreted doing that. Went to see his supervisor the next day. He handled it better and explained that it all was part of the deal to get big stores to develop in the city, they expected the cops to (essentially) enforce "store policy". I said, "so you conspired to deny people their rights"? I was shown the door, point made.
If you let them treat everyone like a criminal, and then we are all living in a jail.
Actually, I don't think you have to prove you are innocent. They have to prove you are guilty.
So I wonder what would happen if you were to ask for them to indicate what makes them think that you have stolen something?
Failure to show your receipt is NOT evidence that you stole something.
In reality, in the grand scheme of life, it's probably not worth the hassle to make a stand for this at the store that wants to see the receipt.
I guess if you really wanted to make a scene, just turn around, go to the returns desk, and return everything, telling them you don't care to shop somewhere where you are presumed to be guilty of shoplifting.
And then never shop there again.
Don't lose sight of the little picture here. For the most part, these door checkers are elderly part timers making not much money, just doing what they are told by mgmt. It really doesn't hurt you/me to be friendly and courteous. Remember, to mgmt they're just mushrooms...
Hey Oldmope ... you and I are elderly part-timers.
Papa Bear said:Hey Oldmope ... you and I are elderly part-timers.[/quote
Too true, don't remind me...
Whatever happened to Cicero's case? I can't find that thread anymore.
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