A famous ruler of a country that had massive oil reserves once said the following:
Oil is too valuable to burn. When we run out, what will we do? Fight each other for the last drop?
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A famous ruler of a country that had massive oil reserves once said the following:
Oil is too valuable to burn. When we run out, what will we do? Fight each other for the last drop?
The Turo 2012 Prius is in awesome order. Like our own winter here dough in Juneau rainy and clammy
Guy said he hasn’t replaced batteries seems to hold a charge
Guy said he hasn’t replaced batteries seems to hold a charge
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The devil is in the detail. The older EV buyers weren't the same one today. I know a lot of long distance commuters leased early Leafs, Honda Clarity, VW eGolf, etc to drive on carpool lane for 2 years and get free charging at work. These days a lot of places no longer have free carpool lanes for EVs and the EV buyers are doing it for coolness and fun factor.
Every EV owners I know (other than the recent Tesla buyers) have another gas car at home. You would be crazy to rely only on EV in a family.
So what do you think the older EV leasers would do when they finally remove the carpool lane access? They probably just got back to hybrid instead.
In practice, that's where economic bubbles help. Sure the burst hurt but sometimes the only way something move forward is with some speculation due to technology change (Southsea rubber company, dot com, electrification / guild age), and low interest rate (like since 2008).
Often for me is business trip (chargers at workplace) or road trip with a hotel I can charge at night. Still, it is different if you plan your trip and see EV being a good choice and rent it, vs there is no car other than the last EV at 25%.
That's not how I would look at it. What you are saying is like most people with a large pickup at home also have a small car for commute, because pickup is not good with fuel efficiency or comfort in long drive, so clearly they are not capable as a family vehicle.
The problem is Avis ran out of cars and the only one left is one with 25% charge left.
Do you remember EV1? I do. They eventually remove that law that caused GM to design EV1 and they got cancelled in the end. Give it enough time and laws will eventually change (they are flexible) once the voter base got inconvenience enough.
Yeah - I would agree that for the OP, Hertz did him dirty. A 90-100% charged Bolt might be reasonable for a business trip where it can be driven first and the the charging figured out later. I've been doing some reading and there are some complaints that a Bolt was the last car and that the initial plan was to drive like 275-300 miles where even a fully charged Bolt wouldn't make it without recharging.
But it's not a bad car. I hear a lot of owners love the Bolt, but the charging limitations aren't so bad for people who have planned around it.
That is not how power generation and grid works. New community are build and AC added all the time, so they just build MORE power plants and grid capacity to compensate for that. I do think natural gas price would be a concern and if we didn't mandate everyone to go from fixed rate day or night to time of use rate we will have some problem. Most likely during the duck curve ramp time from 4pm-9pm, so battery storage (inside an EV) need to soak it up or we will have to waste a power wall like battery pack to help out. Most likely people will charge EV at discount rate at home between 10pm-6am or at work from 10am-3pm to help balance the grid.
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Stop with the agenda please. There is no shortage of oil and not in the next lifetimes unless the shortage is manipulated politically.
Oil is always manipulated, just like salt was back in the days, and production is increased and cut based on OPEC meeting. Bigger problem though is electricity price is also heavily depending on natural gas price and therefore at the mercy of international events. The only exception is island grids relying on nuke and hydro.
and this has to do with what?
I was responding to a complaint about taxpayer subsidies for EV purchases.
I know, it's nuts. Tax breaks to the wealthy to buy EVs because EVs can't sell without them.
I hope in the next year or two all ev subsidies are gone. Subsidizing ev does absolutely nothing for me and does not benefit me in any way. On the other hand oil and gas does many things I use and benefit from so I don't mind subsidizing it.
* i rented got a Jeep Wrangler once as rental and it was not comfortable whatsoever for 4 hrs of highway driving.
* I rented a Dodge SRT and it got terrible fuel mileage in city and was loud.
* I rented a RWD SUV and it was terrible in snow.
* OP rented a slow charging EV that was empty and got stuck charging it forever.
Common theme, wrong vehicle for application.
* I rented a Dodge SRT and it got terrible fuel mileage in city and was loud.
* I rented a RWD SUV and it was terrible in snow.
* OP rented a slow charging EV that was empty and got stuck charging it forever.
Common theme, wrong vehicle for application.
I'm guessing that it probably would have been OK had it been charged to a reasonably high level.
But absolutely this was unfair to the OP but hardly a sign that EVs aren't ready for rental use. The Bolt was meant to be a smaller, entry level EV that gives up some range and charging speed for affordability.
They’re great lower cost EVs and I would love to own one. It would be fantastic for Victoria and my work trips to Vancouver. I would probably only have to charge in public on road trips but we’d take our CRV on longer trips anyway.
The longest I’ve ever driven for a work trip to Vancouver is 200km. There would be no need to charge but if I ever had to, the company condo parkade has a number of Level 2 chargers and the parkade I use downtown has a ton of Level 2 and some Level 3 as well.
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IMO these are apples and oranges. Lots of vehicles are uncomfortable, inefficient, and/or bad in snow. Many aren’t. Any of these could be the case for an EV or an ICE.
The issue isn’t really that Hertz messed up, though that’s an observation of an endemic issue. It’s also not the availability of chargers. There are plenty.
It’s really the impracticality of charging an EV on a trip. Yes, absolutely, lots of issues compiled on me last night which is why it was an interesting case study.
If the car was fully charged things would have been easier, but I’d still have many of the issues. And the low power (talking 5-10kW, which I think is all that anyone’s home charger will do) is pretty worthless for scenarios like this. Almost as worthless as a 120v charger.
Couple the impracticality of charging on the road, and the limited range, and it’s just not a good vehicle choice for real utility. Don’t get me wrong, I would consider buying one for other reasons. But I wouldn’t give up an ICE. And that’s really why I’m also very pro PHEV.
Not sure I agree. I’ve been inconvenienced with high speed Tesla chargers elsewhere. I’ve found that supercharging costs more per mile than our odyssey. Even last night ai paid 48c/kWh at the fast charger, 30c/kWh on the overnight one (plus $5/hr!)
That’s expensive for a substandard charge.
It also shows to me that destination chargers are almost worthless. A 5kW destination charter for an hour does almost nothing. Plug it in for a few minutes at a store? Might as well not.
And it isn’t the vehicle really other than that it left me high and dry for finding chargers. The audio in it for example is great. I was really impressed how Gladys Knight’s “Midnight Train to Georgia” sounded on XM. The controls and operation are superior to Tesla.
They’re just all too slow charging to practically use like this.
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