Let me first begin by saying that I do like the Raybestos coated rotors. The picture shows how they look on the CRV at 3 years here in the mid west with salt and mother nature. The car gets park on the street and I'll need to redo the brakes on the next oil change. I seen this all black rotors and wonder if they'll do better under this conditions. Yes more than twice the money but is it worth it????