That's LL-17 FE+, Shell says LL-19. 
Ravenol 0w30 FES vs. Ravenol 0w30 SSO
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Interesting, there's another I've not yet heard of. New generation of BMW spec's coming out?
Possibly. VW issued VW511.00/Porsche C40 too. Thin oils work in certain environments. You won’t find it desirable in M2 competition.
I wish Volkswagen would declare VW 511 00 entirely backwards compatible with VW 502 00, but I guess they won't due to reduced SAPS levels on 511 00 and sulphur in some countries fuels. However I have a hard time to imagine this to be any issue in Europe, where most gasoline VW/Audi engines are specced for both VW 504 00 and 502 00 and fuel is ultra-low sulphur by law.
One of my favorite oils comes with VW 511 00 and I'd bet the new approval exceeds the old one in some ways and at least matches it in others. VW 511 00 seems to merge the strengths of VW 504 00 and 502 00. Strong viscosity incl. HTHS and great wear protection along with reduced SAPS and enhanced 'DI-friendlyness'. Both haven't been that far off anyway, but it limits choice. Oils with VW 511 00 don't come with VW 502 00 simultaneously.
I understand that Volkswagen isn't too deeply interested in older VWs and Audis running anything different than VW 504 00 oils.
One of my favorite oils comes with VW 511 00 and I'd bet the new approval exceeds the old one in some ways and at least matches it in others. VW 511 00 seems to merge the strengths of VW 504 00 and 502 00. Strong viscosity incl. HTHS and great wear protection along with reduced SAPS and enhanced 'DI-friendlyness'. Both haven't been that far off anyway, but it limits choice. Oils with VW 511 00 don't come with VW 502 00 simultaneously.
I understand that Volkswagen isn't too deeply interested in older VWs and Audis running anything different than VW 504 00 oils.
My 18 is spec'd and hood tagged for both 502 and 504, (VR6) but the exact same engine in the Atlas, same year, is tagged 504 ONLY. Whatever, I've run both.
I've only found two 511 oils, Mobil and the dealer Genuine Audi stuff, are there more I'm missing?
I've only found two 511 oils, Mobil and the dealer Genuine Audi stuff, are there more I'm missing?
Ravenol RUP 5W-40 had VW 502 00 and 505 01 approvals before and now comes with VW 511 00.
I'd happily run REP 5W-30 in the GTI exclusively as well, but as REP doesn't come with VW approvals
and I do every second change at the dealer, who allows me to provide the oil, I need something that
comes with an actual VW approval (VW 502 00 or 504 00). So far I'm going for Ravenol VMP with VW
504 00, as it's most similar to REP, but it lacks the Tungsten-based FM package (probably Vanderbilt
W-324) which both Ravenol REP, RUP (and RCS) come with. I admit it's kind of a first world problem.
This is the latest list of VW 511 00 approved oils and I'm convinced it'll grow:
https://erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/downloadStaticFile/volkswagen/files/oil/step_51100.pdf (this link automatically directs to the LATEST list)
Audi Original Teile Special Performance Motorenöl SAE 0W-40 51100
BP Visco 7000 C SAE 5W-40 51100
Castrol EDGE M SAE 5W-40 51100
CHAMPION OEM SPECIFIC C3 SAE 5W-40 51100
EUROL FLUENCE SAE 5W-40 51100
FUCHS TITAN GT1 FLEX 3 SAE 5W-40 51100
GALP FORMULA LS LONGLIFE TECH SAE 5W-40 51100
Liqui Moly Top Tec 4110 SAE 5W-40 51100
Mobil Mobil 1 ESP X3 SAE 0W-40 51100
MOTUL 8100 X-CLEAN GEN2 SAE 5W-40 51100
RAVENOL RUP SAE 5W-40 51100
ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RS DLS SAE 5W-40 51100
Shell Helix Ultra ECT Multi SAE 5W-40 51100
TOTAL QUARTZ INEO FGO SAE 5W-40 51100
Volkswagen Group HIGH PERFORMANCE GENUINE ENGINE OIL SAE 0W-40 51100
WOLF OFFICIALTECH C3 SAE 5W-40 5110
(5.2021)
12 oils are 5W-40, only three are 0W-40. Or should I say only one is 0W-40? If M1, Genuine VW and Original Audi are the same stuff?
I'm sorry for OT.
I'd happily run REP 5W-30 in the GTI exclusively as well, but as REP doesn't come with VW approvals
and I do every second change at the dealer, who allows me to provide the oil, I need something that
comes with an actual VW approval (VW 502 00 or 504 00). So far I'm going for Ravenol VMP with VW
504 00, as it's most similar to REP, but it lacks the Tungsten-based FM package (probably Vanderbilt
W-324) which both Ravenol REP, RUP (and RCS) come with. I admit it's kind of a first world problem.
This is the latest list of VW 511 00 approved oils and I'm convinced it'll grow:
https://erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/downloadStaticFile/volkswagen/files/oil/step_51100.pdf (this link automatically directs to the LATEST list)
Audi Original Teile Special Performance Motorenöl SAE 0W-40 51100
BP Visco 7000 C SAE 5W-40 51100
Castrol EDGE M SAE 5W-40 51100
CHAMPION OEM SPECIFIC C3 SAE 5W-40 51100
EUROL FLUENCE SAE 5W-40 51100
FUCHS TITAN GT1 FLEX 3 SAE 5W-40 51100
GALP FORMULA LS LONGLIFE TECH SAE 5W-40 51100
Liqui Moly Top Tec 4110 SAE 5W-40 51100
Mobil Mobil 1 ESP X3 SAE 0W-40 51100
MOTUL 8100 X-CLEAN GEN2 SAE 5W-40 51100
RAVENOL RUP SAE 5W-40 51100
ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RS DLS SAE 5W-40 51100
Shell Helix Ultra ECT Multi SAE 5W-40 51100
TOTAL QUARTZ INEO FGO SAE 5W-40 51100
Volkswagen Group HIGH PERFORMANCE GENUINE ENGINE OIL SAE 0W-40 51100
WOLF OFFICIALTECH C3 SAE 5W-40 5110
(5.2021)
12 oils are 5W-40, only three are 0W-40. Or should I say only one is 0W-40? If M1, Genuine VW and Original Audi are the same stuff?
I'm sorry for OT.
I apologize, didn't see well.