Ram 3500 6.4l hemi engine failure after using Fram oil filter

[Cooling617]

I recently had a oil change at a local shop and I supplied a new Fram oil filter - part #
Xxxx. I confirmed it was the correct filter and after 20miles I was noticing very reduced oil pressure on my display usually 200kpa or above and was only showing 80 after the oil change and engine didn’t sound right , so I brought the truck to the local ram dealer got a new Mopar filter installed as recommended by the service manager and pressure was restored but engine sound wasn’t, unfortunately in the short time not enough oil pressure being provided to the top end caused lifter damage and etc. recommended complete engine replacement.
Service manager advised me that the Fram filter doesn’t have an internal spring like the OEM one and had this problem many times on the 6.4L hemi engines. Just to make others aware of my misfortune hopefully save someone else a few bucks
New engine running around $14,000
Trying to go through Fram’s warranty but so far just lot of there’s no issues with the filter

 

[Cooling617]

I recently had a oil change at a local shop and I supplied a new Fram oil filter - part #
Xxxx. I confirmed it was the correct filter and after 20miles I was noticing very reduced oil pressure on my display usually 200kpa or above and was only showing 80 after the oil change and engine didn’t sound right , so I brought the truck to the local ram dealer got a new Mopar filter installed as recommended by the service manager and pressure was restored but engine sound wasn’t, unfortunately in the short time not enough oil pressure being provided to the top end caused lifter damage and etc. recommended complete engine replacement.
Service manager advised me that the Fram filter doesn’t have an internal spring like the OEM one and had this problem many times on the 6.4L hemi engines. Just to make others aware of my misfortune hopefully save someone else a few bucks
New engine running around 14 000$
Trying to go through Fram’s warranty but so far just lot of there’s no issues with the filter

Fram filter #-XG10060

 

[oldhp]

With the current state of different oil filters changing suppliers almost on a monthly basis is why I only use OEM filters.

 

[Glenda W.]

I’m not a Fram fan but they have replaced engines in the past if the filter caused the failure. They will first test the suspect filter in their lab to confirm.

Seems if this was as common as the Service Manager says the internet would be full of stories.

 

[#18FAN]

I’m not a Fram fan but they have replaced engines in the past if the filter caused the failure. They will first test the suspect filter in their lab to confirm.

Seems if this was as common as the Service Manager says the internet would be full of stories.

Right remember the service manager seen this many times even if that was true he didn’t advise him about this and go ahead and install the Fram filter I’m not buying it.

 

[FranklinJL]

I recently had a oil change at a local shop and I supplied a new Fram oil filter - part #
Xxxx. I confirmed it was the correct filter and after 20miles I was noticing very reduced oil pressure on my display usually 200kpa or above and was only showing 80 after the oil change and engine didn’t sound right , so I brought the truck to the local ram dealer got a new Mopar filter installed as recommended by the service manager and pressure was restored but engine sound wasn’t, unfortunately in the short time not enough oil pressure being provided to the top end caused lifter damage and etc. recommended complete engine replacement.
Service manager advised me that the Fram filter doesn’t have an internal spring like the OEM one and had this problem many times on the 6.4L hemi engines. Just to make others aware of my misfortune hopefully save someone else a few bucks
New engine running around $14,000
Trying to go through Fram’s warranty but so far just lot of there’s no issues with the filter

Sounds like engine was probably low on oil. The spring shouldn't cause the oil pressure to be that low...

 

[Glenda W.]

I was curious and looked up some XG 10060 cut opens here. It does in fact have a bypass spring design. If the filter were to become plugged the bypass would open to allow oil flow. I agree with @FranklinJL, the oil change shop(or someone) ran it with no or low oil.

 

[#18FAN]

Sounds like engine was probably low on oil. The spring shouldn't cause the oil pressure to be that low...

Could be never had it full when it left now turns into a CYA and blame the filter.

 

[Cooling617]

Right remember the service manager seen this many times even if that was true he didn’t advise him about this and go ahead and install the Fram filter I’m not buying it.

I got to see the difference in oil pressure immediately after changing the filter to the OEM filter as soon as started up when from 80 to 200 Kpa that’s a huge difference in oil pressure

 

[Cooling617]

Sounds like engine was probably low on oil. The spring shouldn't cause the oil pressure to be that low...

Nope not low on oil at all, I verified myself at time of oil change and when we replaced the filter 2nd time , my oil level on the dipstick was still good and we topped it off to bring it to the top of the dipstick gage at the dealership, and using 0w40 as recommended

 

[fantastic]

Geez, $14k for a Hemi replacement? That's a rip. I think seeing "many" is questionable (that's their excuse anyways). You supplied the filter so they will blame it on that as they will have no responsibility. Good luck with your claim but I doubt anyone will cover your bill even if it was the filter.

 

[Cooling617]

Agreed on that one going through the process but not very hopeful on any resolution that’s going to help me lol

 

[factorytuned2012]

You really believe it was the filter?

 

[Bighorn2500]

Do you have the Fram XG10060 in your possession to send back to Fram for testing in their facilities?

Not saying it can’t happen as I’ve been on the end of a defective Fram TG10060 previously off a Hemi 5.7 with a manufacturing defect. As others mentioned that bypass would have opened and you would have had sufficient oil pressure.

Something else happened and there is more to the story here is my suspicion.

 

[BornSlippy]

Sounds like you are in Canada?
Year of truck?
Mileage on truck?
Main usage of truck? (Towing? Dually?)
Oil change history?
Brand and viscosity of oil used?
Where is the suspect filter now?

 

[johnmyster]

With the current state of different oil filters changing suppliers almost on a monthly basis is why I only use OEM filters.

OEM filters generally outsourced too.

 

[Glenda W.]

Do these not have a low oil pressure warning?

 

[JavierH19]

The 10060 has a bypass valve inside and would have never caused that failure as even if the pressure was cut in half. There's more to this story.

 

[MetalSlug]

Don’t blame on fram.

 

[OVERKILL]

The FRAM filter definitely has the bypass valve. Only thing I can think of is if it's one with the louvered centre tube and the louvers were all shut.. The bypass valve by itself would not flow enough oil to properly feed the engine.

I would fully expect FRAM (First Brands) to cover the engine replacement if this is the case, but you will need the filter they claim caused to problem to submit to them.