Quaker state Ultimate Protection is GTL

[Drew99GT]

According to this Reddit post, Shell confirmed this. Sorry if it’s been posted before, couldn’t find it.


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAMechanic/s/kTtM5oWR5j

 

[daves87rs]

That is good to know!!!

 

[Hirev]

Good to know just started using it in one vehicle in the last 6 months. Might do this in 0w-20 in my hybrid next oil change.

 

[loneryder]

Does that include the Euro oils which are not called Ultimate Protection?

 

[Patman]

This oil is a good bargain. It’s too bad it’s not available in Canada

 

[facility1]

very good low-cost oil out there and readily available. GTL base stocks / blends maybe the wave of other future oils. when the SQ,-GF-7 spec. hits the market.

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

It’s also rated for 20k miles according to the label

 

[stanlee]

I assumed this from DAY ONE when they separated Ultimate Durability from "Full" Synthetic green bottle. I also assume they are just rebranded Pennzoil Platinum and Pennzoil full synthetic as it would make no financial sense for the same company to reformulate the same tier oils in the same markets. And yes I'm aware BEFORE they made two synthetic Quaker States (And Shell was trying to market GTL as exclusive to Pennzoil) it was formulated different than Pennzoil Platinum.

 

[RooflessVW]

This oil is a good bargain. It’s too bad it’s not available in Canada

Aren't the Motomaster oils Pennzoil/QS?

 

[doublebase]

Interesting, didn’t that oil expert do a video on this saying it wasn’t? Can’t remember. Can’t remember his name either.

But it makes sense from a brand to use the same base stocks within the same refinery. Different additives and different percentages of base stocks? Ok I could see that.

 

[wemay]

Interesting, didn’t that oil expert do a video on this saying it wasn’t? Can’t remember. Can’t remember his name either.

But it makes sense from a brand to use the same base stocks within the same refinery. Different additives and different percentages of base stocks? Ok I could see that.

Lake Speed Jr.

He tested Quaker State Full Synthetic, not the 20k mile version.

 

[Glenda W.]

Awesome if it is. But it’s Reddit….

 

[JAG]

SDS states this fact.

 

[kschachn]

A few previous threads, either directly on the topic or by mention.

Just be aware that under the interchange guidelines of API Annex E there's no guarantee that a GTL based Group III will always be used.

Thread 'Quaker State Ultimate Protection is GTL Based! (or might not be; read full thread)'

Feb 5, 2024

Been a fair amount of discussion over Quaker States Ultimate Protection here. One of the points of discussion has been whether or not it was really any different from the full synthetic. From reviewing the PDS sheets and VOA's they look very similar, except the Ultimate had an MRV of about half of that of the full synthetic. That made me suspicious it might be GTL, but I've had a hard time finding an SDS. Today I was finally able to overcome Shell's ridiculously complicated SDS search sheet and connect to an SDS.

Guess what? QS Ultimate Protection is indeed GTL. Much like the Euro...

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• Forum: Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Vehicles

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Thread 'LSJr's Video Testing Data - Pennzoil and Quaker State's Differences'

Feb 2, 2024

Lake Speed JR (Certified Lubrication Specialist) test's these two oils to find out their base oil chemistry. This is a YouTube video that talks about the differences between Quaker State Full Synthetic & Pennzoil Full Synthetic.

It answers the question of whether or not QSFS is using gas to liquid or not. QSFS doesn't include gas to liquid & Pennzoil does employ GTL. Very interesting video for you to watch. Lake Speed goes over the additive packs also.

I've started it at the 2:20 minute mark to eliminate some other conversations not pertaining to this data.

• fantastic
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• Forum: Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Vehicles

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Thread 'NEW 3/17/23, Quaker State Ultimate Protection FS w/20k mi or 1 yr guarantee'

Mar 17, 2023

@Walmart

• wemay
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• Forum: Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Vehicles

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[kschachn]

SDS states this fact.

At the time the SDS was written. And of course, those aren't always exactly correct if the toxicity and safety information is equivalent to another formulation.

 

[Patman]

Aren't the Motomaster oils Pennzoil/QS?

They are made by Shell but they don’t have an extended life version so I doubt that they are using the same formula as QSUP

 

[stanlee]

Lake Speed Jr.

He tested Quaker State Full Synthetic, not the 20k mile version.

That's not Ultimate Durability, that's regular full synthetic

 

[KCJeep]

I posted the same thing a while back and had my thread edited/moderated and was beaten for reading an SDS.

Thread 'Quaker State Ultimate Protection is GTL Based! (or might not be; read full thread)'

Feb 5, 2024

Been a fair amount of discussion over Quaker States Ultimate Protection here. One of the points of discussion has been whether or not it was really any different from the full synthetic. From reviewing the PDS sheets and VOA's they look very similar, except the Ultimate had an MRV of about half of that of the full synthetic. That made me suspicious it might be GTL, but I've had a hard time finding an SDS. Today I was finally able to overcome Shell's ridiculously complicated SDS search sheet and connect to an SDS.

Guess what? QS Ultimate Protection is indeed GTL. Much like the Euro...

• KCJeep
• Replies: 52
• Forum: Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Vehicles

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Ironically the same crew that criticized the SDS information routinely uses SDS’s to sort through their favorite M1’s flavors for PAO content.

Quaker State has some really good stuff available, I’ve been running their Euro (also largely GTL) for many thousands of miles in my wife’s Edge and have enough stashed to get to around 120k before purchasing anything else.

 

[wemay]

That's not Ultimate Durability, that's regular full synthetic

Quaker State changed the name from Ultimate Durability to just Full Synthetic some years back. Then introduced Ultimate Protection, the topic of this thread which is the 20k mile oil.

 

[stanlee]

Quaker State changed the name from Ultimate Durability to just Full Synthetic some years back. Then introduced Ultimate Protection, the topic of this thread which is the 20k mile oil.

And that was false. They are both available and they grade them differently. Did you even look at the back label in the above pic. They have BOTH oils on the label at a different tier