Purposely door dinged. Cops involved.
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: Trav
How can you watch that and not bounce his face of the truck a few times? I don't get it.
It's just property damage not personal assault. Once you involve physical aggression or wave/threaten weapons you are becoming an aggressor. The guy was not threatening his life.
Welcome to the world of Dr Dr. Raymond Cocteau. It will be a cold day in Hades before I stand there and watch some A hole damage my stuff and do nothing.
I couldn't look at myself in the mirror without feeling like a spineless wonder. The loss of self respect is worse than any damage.
The average person who confront this idiot.
If you're with your kids... then I understand not wanting to confront this jerk.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: Trav
How can you watch that and not bounce his face of the truck a few times? I don't get it.
It's just property damage not personal assault. Once you involve physical aggression or wave/threaten weapons you are becoming an aggressor. The guy was not threatening his life.
Welcome to the world of Dr Dr. Raymond Cocteau. It will be a cold day in Hades before I stand there and watch some A hole damage my stuff and do nothing.
I couldn't look at myself in the mirror without feeling like a spineless wonder. The loss of self respect is worse than any damage.
The average person who confront this idiot.
If you're with your kids... then I understand not wanting to confront this jerk.
As fdcg27 mentioned check out PDR. Go on www.yelp.com, plug in PDR for type of business then your location. It will be a fraction of what a body shop charges. They did excellent work getting a crease out of a passenger door of a friend's Accord. Couldn't even tell it was damaged afterwards. And the crease/damage was pretty significant. The PDR tech can advise you beforehand if it's something out of their range. If there's a smudge in the paint the PDR tech can go over it with some polish.
I'd love to show some before/after pics but the pics were on photobucket so they're gone now.
Yesterday I had a guy in a Silverado motioning me over to the right lane with his middle finger. So he didn't have to wait to get in the high speed lane to pass because of traffic. When I saw that I was in no hurry to move over. SO he finally passes and I dart my head side ways to look at him but he won't turn to look. Gets in front of me, no signal. I just let it go. This kind of stuff happens all the time on the roadways. Have to pick your battles. Although first time I saw the mid finger in a long time, can't remember last time. But Whew!
OP, any pictures of damage? Also OP is a good guy from the PMs we've exchanged.
I feel late to the party on this thread. Six pages later and I just got in on it.
I'd love to show some before/after pics but the pics were on photobucket so they're gone now.
Yesterday I had a guy in a Silverado motioning me over to the right lane with his middle finger. So he didn't have to wait to get in the high speed lane to pass because of traffic. When I saw that I was in no hurry to move over. SO he finally passes and I dart my head side ways to look at him but he won't turn to look. Gets in front of me, no signal. I just let it go. This kind of stuff happens all the time on the roadways. Have to pick your battles. Although first time I saw the mid finger in a long time, can't remember last time. But Whew!
OP, any pictures of damage? Also OP is a good guy from the PMs we've exchanged.
I feel late to the party on this thread. Six pages later and I just got in on it.
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Originally Posted By: HorseThief
That sucks... Otherwise, if you don't mind me asking - you're a student who works at Walmart.... So how and why do you drive a new vehicle? How do you justify it financially? Or pay for it for that matter...
Only on BITOG...
That sucks... Otherwise, if you don't mind me asking - you're a student who works at Walmart.... So how and why do you drive a new vehicle? How do you justify it financially? Or pay for it for that matter...
Only on BITOG...
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If there was any damage done to the rear quarter panel, you might as well sell the car. They can't unbolt and replace the rear quarter panel.
Have your potable water tested.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If there was any damage done to the rear quarter panel, you might as well sell the car. They can't unbolt and replace the rear quarter panel.
Have your potable water tested.
Originally Posted By: Cujet
MAKE SURE THE GUY GETS CHARGED, PERIOD. Because, you may have zero real world recourse.
Exactly. Even if you DO win a judgment on the Gong Show(AKA Small Claims Court) you will have to collect it- and it takes a lot of work to collect from a deadbeat.
On the other hand, if the court orders restitution in a criminal case, the defendant will go to jail if he doesn't pay up.
MAKE SURE THE GUY GETS CHARGED, PERIOD. Because, you may have zero real world recourse.
Exactly. Even if you DO win a judgment on the Gong Show(AKA Small Claims Court) you will have to collect it- and it takes a lot of work to collect from a deadbeat.
On the other hand, if the court orders restitution in a criminal case, the defendant will go to jail if he doesn't pay up.
Wouldn't be surprised if a nice truck like that being driven by a jerk is LEASED. So might be hard to get a lien on it.
Also, hate to say it but prob not criminal since I "think" the damage occurred on the first opening of the door. The subsequent, dry humping and mock opening/closing was horsing around. And I don't think that did any damage. Although he was being super OBNOXIOUS about it. But I could be wrong about some of the details in the matter.
Also, hate to say it but prob not criminal since I "think" the damage occurred on the first opening of the door. The subsequent, dry humping and mock opening/closing was horsing around. And I don't think that did any damage. Although he was being super OBNOXIOUS about it. But I could be wrong about some of the details in the matter.
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
What a clown.
I wouldn't bother taking your car to VW for an estimate. I'm quite sure there is a better body shop closer to you.
+1. Learned this when our van was hit. Dealer body shops don't guarantee OE parts, they can be shill sender shops for insurance companies too, willing to do jobs to insurance "standards", not OEM.
What a clown.
I wouldn't bother taking your car to VW for an estimate. I'm quite sure there is a better body shop closer to you.
+1. Learned this when our van was hit. Dealer body shops don't guarantee OE parts, they can be shill sender shops for insurance companies too, willing to do jobs to insurance "standards", not OEM.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
+1. Learned this when our van was hit. Dealer body shops don't guarantee OE parts, they can be shill sender shops for insurance companies too, willing to do jobs to insurance "standards", not OEM.
The Toyota/Lexus body shop here is located down the street from the dealers. It's a joint venture 50/50 partnership between the dealer and a small chain of body shops as I understand it(7 locations nationwide). The dealer owns the building and has their name on it. Then the body shop runs the day to day operations.
You can track the progress online, most repairs done in a week, lifetime guarantee as along as you own the car, inside is clean enough to eat off the floor etc. Not on "approved" list for a few insurance companies that I've dealt with. Here is the link for them:
http://www.metroaccidentrepair.com/
+1. Learned this when our van was hit. Dealer body shops don't guarantee OE parts, they can be shill sender shops for insurance companies too, willing to do jobs to insurance "standards", not OEM.
The Toyota/Lexus body shop here is located down the street from the dealers. It's a joint venture 50/50 partnership between the dealer and a small chain of body shops as I understand it(7 locations nationwide). The dealer owns the building and has their name on it. Then the body shop runs the day to day operations.
You can track the progress online, most repairs done in a week, lifetime guarantee as along as you own the car, inside is clean enough to eat off the floor etc. Not on "approved" list for a few insurance companies that I've dealt with. Here is the link for them:
http://www.metroaccidentrepair.com/
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Bubba,
OP might not have the time, money and effort to be away from work / college.
HorseThief,
If college kids have school loans, they pay them back by having a job.
Nevermind.... jesus [censored] you people just don't understand what I'm getting after. Common sense just ain't that common (along with reading comprehension), I guess. Peace out
Bubba,
OP might not have the time, money and effort to be away from work / college.
HorseThief,
If college kids have school loans, they pay them back by having a job.
Nevermind.... jesus [censored] you people just don't understand what I'm getting after. Common sense just ain't that common (along with reading comprehension), I guess. Peace out
Originally Posted By: HorseThief
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
While I also agree somewhat, the internet makes people keyboard warriors and questions that would be off limits in person become easy to ask. On the face of it, it would seem like it's a bad financial decision, but it's not like the OP is stuck there for life, sounds like it's just a college job so it's fine.
Guess I'm just a keyboard warrior then... not someone who is genuinely trying to gain some insight into why and how people make their financial decisions - maybe I'm doing something wrong and am making things harder on myself than it needs to be. [censored], if a young kid who works at walmart can afford a brand new car, what am I doing wrong in my life (a lot)? These are the reasons I ask the questions that I do. Also, I never implied that he was going to work at walmart the rest of his life, he clearly stated he was a student - which is why I asked the question.
I ask because on the surface, it would seem like a bad idea - I was just curious as to the situation that would allow OP to do this - and he graciously explained, and now I know. Sometimes you have to ask questions that may be considered a little rude or gauche. That's how you learn things and gain insight. Do you go through life assuming everyone lives just like you and makes the same decisions you make? Don't you ever get curious about what drives someone to make the decisions they have made and POSSIBLY try and learn something from that? Jesus, this forum is filled with some uptight a-holes. Get off your pedestals.
Look, if the kids got scholarships and/or parents/trusts/whatever to help pay for school, than more power to him - the reason I asked is because 60%+ of college grads have student loan debt (on average about 30K+) and generally at higher interest rates than good/excellent credit auto financing rates. Again, just trying to gain some insight into what allows people to make the financial decisions they do. If I'm doing something wrong I sure would like to know and try and fix it.
There are certain things as everyone said that are considered rude no matter how good your intentions are. It's just considered rude. That's the nature of social graces. It's rude to stare at someone who's disfigured or handicapped even though everyone is very curious about how it happened and would like insight into the problem.
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
While I also agree somewhat, the internet makes people keyboard warriors and questions that would be off limits in person become easy to ask. On the face of it, it would seem like it's a bad financial decision, but it's not like the OP is stuck there for life, sounds like it's just a college job so it's fine.
Guess I'm just a keyboard warrior then... not someone who is genuinely trying to gain some insight into why and how people make their financial decisions - maybe I'm doing something wrong and am making things harder on myself than it needs to be. [censored], if a young kid who works at walmart can afford a brand new car, what am I doing wrong in my life (a lot)? These are the reasons I ask the questions that I do. Also, I never implied that he was going to work at walmart the rest of his life, he clearly stated he was a student - which is why I asked the question.
I ask because on the surface, it would seem like a bad idea - I was just curious as to the situation that would allow OP to do this - and he graciously explained, and now I know. Sometimes you have to ask questions that may be considered a little rude or gauche. That's how you learn things and gain insight. Do you go through life assuming everyone lives just like you and makes the same decisions you make? Don't you ever get curious about what drives someone to make the decisions they have made and POSSIBLY try and learn something from that? Jesus, this forum is filled with some uptight a-holes. Get off your pedestals.
Look, if the kids got scholarships and/or parents/trusts/whatever to help pay for school, than more power to him - the reason I asked is because 60%+ of college grads have student loan debt (on average about 30K+) and generally at higher interest rates than good/excellent credit auto financing rates. Again, just trying to gain some insight into what allows people to make the financial decisions they do. If I'm doing something wrong I sure would like to know and try and fix it.
There are certain things as everyone said that are considered rude no matter how good your intentions are. It's just considered rude. That's the nature of social graces. It's rude to stare at someone who's disfigured or handicapped even though everyone is very curious about how it happened and would like insight into the problem.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If there was any damage done to the rear quarter panel, you might as well sell the car. They can't unbolt and replace the rear quarter panel.
Have your potable water tested.
Leave it to Merkava for a silly comment like this
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If there was any damage done to the rear quarter panel, you might as well sell the car. They can't unbolt and replace the rear quarter panel.
Have your potable water tested.
Leave it to Merkava for a silly comment like this
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
If you're with your kids... then I understand not wanting to confront this jerk.
Agree 100%, I would never deliberately put kids in a potentially dangerous situation either.
If you're with your kids... then I understand not wanting to confront this jerk.
Agree 100%, I would never deliberately put kids in a potentially dangerous situation either.
The responses to this thread are quite interesting.
Parking far away doesn't work, especially with a new car. I've dealt with claims where we had camera footage of people intentionally going up to nice cars parked further out in the lot and damaging them. In fact, it is even harder to get footage of that stuff because a lot of the security cameras don't reach that far, some people get lucky and they do.
Shooting the guy? Come on. The OP acted perfectly. While the guy is doing something very stupid (and criminal) he is not threatening you. Taking a shot at an unarmed non-threatening person (especially with his kid in the vehicle) is just asking for jail time. If he poses a threat, totally different story.
There is no way to avoid these people, they are just out there. The only thing you can do is be prepared to act accordingly (like the OP did by calling police, taking pictures, etc), and be prepared to protect yourself if necessary. Always be aware of your surroundings and what people are capable of.
Parking far away doesn't work, especially with a new car. I've dealt with claims where we had camera footage of people intentionally going up to nice cars parked further out in the lot and damaging them. In fact, it is even harder to get footage of that stuff because a lot of the security cameras don't reach that far, some people get lucky and they do.
Shooting the guy? Come on. The OP acted perfectly. While the guy is doing something very stupid (and criminal) he is not threatening you. Taking a shot at an unarmed non-threatening person (especially with his kid in the vehicle) is just asking for jail time. If he poses a threat, totally different story.
There is no way to avoid these people, they are just out there. The only thing you can do is be prepared to act accordingly (like the OP did by calling police, taking pictures, etc), and be prepared to protect yourself if necessary. Always be aware of your surroundings and what people are capable of.
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Parking far away doesn't work, especially with a new car. I've dealt with claims where we had camera footage of people intentionally going up to nice cars parked further out in the lot and damaging them. In fact, it is even harder to get footage of that stuff because a lot of the security cameras don't reach that far, some people get lucky and they do.
Agreed. Anecdotally, it seems no matter how far away you park, no matter how isolated, some dodo wants to park right next to you, despite having ten open spots in either direction.
Parking far away doesn't work, especially with a new car. I've dealt with claims where we had camera footage of people intentionally going up to nice cars parked further out in the lot and damaging them. In fact, it is even harder to get footage of that stuff because a lot of the security cameras don't reach that far, some people get lucky and they do.
Agreed. Anecdotally, it seems no matter how far away you park, no matter how isolated, some dodo wants to park right next to you, despite having ten open spots in either direction.
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If there was any damage done to the rear quarter panel, you might as well sell the car. They can't unbolt and replace the rear quarter panel.
Merk, quarter panels are very much so replaceable. Not bolt on, but there’s multiple ways to cut them off and weld in a new piece and you can’t see the difference.
My dad’s done body work for 30 years and I’ve seen him replace several of them.
If there was any damage done to the rear quarter panel, you might as well sell the car. They can't unbolt and replace the rear quarter panel.
Merk, quarter panels are very much so replaceable. Not bolt on, but there’s multiple ways to cut them off and weld in a new piece and you can’t see the difference.
My dad’s done body work for 30 years and I’ve seen him replace several of them.
Originally Posted By: silverrat
What's the hold up with showing pics of the damage? The story is out already, might as well see the damage too.
My camera just doesn't pickup the damage. There are small scratches, dings and a crease in the door. Also scratches, and dings in the rear quarter panel and wheel well.
What's the hold up with showing pics of the damage? The story is out already, might as well see the damage too.
My camera just doesn't pickup the damage. There are small scratches, dings and a crease in the door. Also scratches, and dings in the rear quarter panel and wheel well.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Parking far away doesn't work, especially with a new car. I've dealt with claims where we had camera footage of people intentionally going up to nice cars parked further out in the lot and damaging them. In fact, it is even harder to get footage of that stuff because a lot of the security cameras don't reach that far, some people get lucky and they do.
Agreed. Anecdotally, it seems no matter how far away you park, no matter how isolated, some dodo wants to park right next to you, despite having ten open spots in either direction.
Yeah, happens to me all the time too, the only way to really stop them is to put a shopping car between the cars, they don't seem that enthused to get out of the car to move the shopping cart just to park next to you. But it probably happens to me 1 out of 5 times. Usually I'm only 3-4 spaces away from the nearest car, but then sometimes the lot just fills up by the time you leave. When I had a beater and didn't care, I'd park as close as possible to the entrance. When I got rid of it, I think I counted at least 12 door dings on one side and probably a similar number on the other.
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Parking far away doesn't work, especially with a new car. I've dealt with claims where we had camera footage of people intentionally going up to nice cars parked further out in the lot and damaging them. In fact, it is even harder to get footage of that stuff because a lot of the security cameras don't reach that far, some people get lucky and they do.
Agreed. Anecdotally, it seems no matter how far away you park, no matter how isolated, some dodo wants to park right next to you, despite having ten open spots in either direction.
Yeah, happens to me all the time too, the only way to really stop them is to put a shopping car between the cars, they don't seem that enthused to get out of the car to move the shopping cart just to park next to you. But it probably happens to me 1 out of 5 times. Usually I'm only 3-4 spaces away from the nearest car, but then sometimes the lot just fills up by the time you leave. When I had a beater and didn't care, I'd park as close as possible to the entrance. When I got rid of it, I think I counted at least 12 door dings on one side and probably a similar number on the other.
Yes, I seem to fare better parking near the door than way out in the boonies. Why they gravitate to a solitary car, I'll never know. I've been lucky to avoid door dings in lots over the years, but some people, I tell you.
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