Public oil drop-off site contaminated

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A potentially dangerous chemical has shut down a city-run oil recycling facility.

Used oil dumped into a designated tank on the west side of Madison tested positive for polychlorinated biphenyls, more commonly referred to as PCBs.

“We're evaluating the program as a whole. We want to figure ways to prevent this from happening in the future, because it's good that it was contained within a tank like this rather than be in a stream, but it is costly,” Madison Landfill Supervisor Andrew Solberg said.

Solberg said the contractor assigned to monitoring and recycling the oil at each of the four city drop-off sites notified him of the contamination earlier this month. The city ran an additional set of tests and found the tank on Speedway Road did have a form of PCBs common in electrical transformers.

Solberg said he is aware that PCBs can inhibit neurological development in children and disrupt the endocrine system. He added that PCBs are a probable human carcinogen and have been thought to lead to cancer.

The collection point is also right next to the Glenway Golf Course, and some neighbors expressed concerns about the environmental impact.

Solberg said the chemicals in this oil tank are contained, and everyone is safe. The site has been shut down indefinitely, at least until the facility is cleaned and cleared of PCBs.

“Those are issues with PCB, but at the present, there's no risk to the public,” Solberg said.

Cleanups like the one that will be required on the west side site cost thousands of dollars that Solberg said are typically not budgeted for. On top of that, the contractor can no longer recycle the oil, and the city no longer collects money on that supply.

“It's just an additional expense that hopefully we can avoid,” Solberg said.

Solberg said the contamination is likely a result of someone dumping the wrong materials into the 500-gallon tank. The collection point is only supposed to store used motor oil.

"It could have been done knowingly, unknowingly. We don't know,” Solberg said. “So it's something we're going to try to put measures in place that would prevent that in the future.”

Solberg said a similar issue occurred in October at the site on Monona Drive. He wants to do more to prevent contamination from happening, mentioning more signage, surveillance at sites and supervised locations as options for the city.

For those unsure what is and is not allowed at city disposal sites, Solberg encouraged citizens to call the office or check out http://www.danecountycleansweep.com/ for detailed information on throwing out hazardous materials.


Public oil drop-off site contaminated
 
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The high cost of proper (lawful) disposal is what drives contaminants into streams and other unlawful types of disposal.

Building before last that I bought, remediation of the old fire retardant asbestos and removal and destruction of some pristine barrels of fairly benign chemicals (granular soap precursors) cost over $100K.

That's a whole lot of money around here and enough to make people run the risk of getting away with midnight disposal.
 
I used this drop-off site when we lived in Madison a number of years ago. I have to say I'm not surprised that something illicit was dumped based on the lack of respect others gave the site at that time (empty bottles, anti-freeze containers, etc. just dumped alongside).

..and it's in a nice neighborhood. Why??
 
Are these drop off sites uncontrolled? I mean, are they staffed, or do people just drive up and dump stuff in the tanks without any supervision?

I've used the city drop off for oil in several communities I've lived in. In all of them, there were staff there that did at least a cursory inspection of what was being dropped off. I'm not saying that would have necessarily prevented the contamination in this case.
 
How are they going to test motor oil for everything before they let you dump a gallon of black slimy liquid? We'll solve the whack-job shooting crises before we figure this out.

By the time they've chemically analyzed what you're dropping off, they'l discover a TBN of 2.7 and tell you to put it back in your car.
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Europe has a nice system where you pay the disposal when you buy something, so it's built into the new price. Also prods the manufacturer to make stuff more easily recyclable.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Surely they know the percentage??? (or did I miss it). Is it 5%, 50% or 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005%?


yeah thats true...
 
Not to mention any of them by name, but you know those off-branded oils that are sold in the convenience stores? I wouldn't be surprised if the PCBs were added at the "refinery" and were disposed of by putting the stuff in new bottles of motor oil.
 
I believe in new jersey the law states if you sell oil, you have to have a place for used oil to be recycled.But that doesn't include supermarkets or quickie marts. I've always brought it back to where I bought it and dumped it in their tank. Free of charge. Some placed will try to charge you but most auto store s will take it free. Easy Peasey.,,
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Surely they know the percentage??? (or did I miss it). Is it 5%, 50% or 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005%?


I doubt the concentration matters, once it's there, it's there. If this was someone's private property, they would have a catastrophe on their hands.
 
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Surely they know the percentage??? (or did I miss it). Is it 5%, 50% or 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005%?


I doubt the concentration matters, once it's there, it's there. If this was someone's private property, they would have a catastrophe on their hands.


Actually it does matter for investigative and health and regulatory reasons.
 
Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
I believe in new jersey the law states if you sell oil, you have to have a place for used oil to be recycled.But that doesn't include supermarkets or quickie marts. I've always brought it back to where I bought it and dumped it in their tank. Free of charge. Some placed will try to charge you but most auto store s will take it free. Easy Peasey.,,



I like that idea, only it should include anyone and everyone who sells oil. Supermarkets, drug stores etc. should not be excluded. Bottom line if you sell oil you should take waste oil, free.
 
At my last job, we were bidding on a project that needed custom metal fabrication for a new process they were implementing. They were taking all of the old electrical transformers and removing the PCB ladened oil from them to be either recycled or refined to be used for new transformers. I think the process removed the PCBs and then the oil could be used in new transformers that didn't rely on PCBs to do what they do. Then they would be able to resell the oil as their end product. Maybe this project never came to fruition and they needed a place to dump the "raw material" they had already accepted?

I cannot remember if the processing facility was to be in Wisconsin, but the part of the project we were bidding on was to be delivered in the state.
 
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