Property taxes vs home appreciation

Perhaps indirectly but a $100/month rent increase only faintly compares to the huge rapid and direct tax increases the OP and others here have demonstrated. The taxes at my beach property last year nearly doubled. I don't get any increase in the value of my property for the involuntary contribution.

The comparison seems like preferring a mosquito bite or a yellow jacket sting.
So are you selling your property? I'm not.
 
Wow! And, WOW again.

When did this concept of home ownership as a great investment go down the toilet? The great American dream?? I can't remember seeing such a turn of opinion regarding real estate. Or, am I missing something? Is this just internet amplification of a small minority?
Many years ago I heard an advisor on some financial show say that your house should first be a place that you want to live. If/when you sell it and make money, great, but it's better not to consider one's house as an investment. That's been my mantra ever since.
 
My taxes have increased about 20% over the past 7 years since purchasing the house. So, keeping up with a "normal" 3% annual inflation rate. I'm not too concerned. Additionally, there are multiple tax relief bills going through my state legislature right now and the state has plenty of cash to pay for it so I imagine they will even decrease in the coming years thanks to state subsidies.
 
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Many years ago I heard an advisor on some financial show say that your house should first be a place that you want to live. If/when you sell it and make money, great, but it's better not to consider one's house as an investment. That's been my mantra ever since.
I have to disagree. Almost all the time if you live in a decent area you are going to make much more money than paying rent even if you have the 30 year mortgage.
 
Many years ago I heard an advisor on some financial show say that your house should first be a place that you want to live. If/when you sell it and make money, great, but it's better not to consider one's house as an investment. That's been my mantra ever since.
I never understood this point-of-view. My house is a critical investment; if all else goes south, I have a place to live. I can rent a room or let family and friends stay to help them out.

I believe in this so much wifey and I have back up homes. And every one has appreciated beyond my wildest dreams.
 
I never understood this point-of-view. My house is a critical investment; if all else goes south, I have a place to live. I can rent a room or let family and friends stay to help them out.

I believe in this so much wifey and I have back up homes. And every one has appreciated beyond my wildest dreams.

That’s because you’re looking at it from your perspective where you’re capable of maintaining and doing small repairs on your properties.

But women, like in OPs case, have a much harder time keeping up with an old house. First it’s because most don’t even know how to, and second they loose their strength a lot quicker than men do. So even a simple chore as going up the attic to change the furnace filter can be outright dangerous.

Ask yourself this, if your wife was left alone for a year, would she be able to maintain and fix little things around the house without outside help? Or if your wife is capable and knowledgeable, just think of someone else you constantly need to help.

There are many elderly people in this kind of situation. Renting is a good option in those cases.
 
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I respectfully disagree with the last sentence. Landlords generally charge the market rate for rentals unless there is rent control. That rate is independent of expenses.
High expenses, be they interest rates, maintenance costs, insurance or taxes will affect the willingness of landlords to buy or build property and may cause a shortage of rentals, thus indirectly causing rents to rise, but I've never seen a direct correlation in the markets I've been a renter ot a landlord.
This is true. Rentals are a business and property taxes are just one of many inputs into the rent equation.
 
I never understood this point-of-view. My house is a critical investment; if all else goes south, I have a place to live. I can rent a room or let family and friends stay to help them out.

I believe in this so much wifey and I have back up homes. And every one has appreciated beyond my wildest dreams.
Jeff, I think from your POV of home values in your area also come into play. Here in the midwest my home has not appreciated to the level that some do on the coast. so it may be an apples to oranges comparison.
 
Not to change the subject but has anyone over 62 looked at a reverse mortgage....The pros and cons of it...
Another option to look at is taking out a HELOC and investing the $$$$ at higher yield monthly rate and using the difference to pay the HELOC payment. For example if a HELOC interest rate costs you 8.00% and you can invest the funds and get a 12% yield (some closed end funds pay upwards of 13%) that is a difference of 5% that you could use for expenses, and technically the home is still an asset you own. There are other creative leverage ways to look at this and I would recommend you talk with a fee only financial advisor.
 
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I guess I should have added "YMMV" to my post. :)

Don't get me wrong, when I'm finally able to sell my house, I'd definitely like to make a profit, but I look at my time living in the house as being cheaper than renting an apartment during that timeframe.
 
The way I look at it is that I need a place to live. I can't even rent a one bedroom apartment in my area for what I pay in interest, taxes and insurance. Anything I pay in principle on the mortgage is like a forced savings account that I'll get back eventually. My house hasn't appreciated as quickly as I would have liked, but it's not bad.

When I get to the point of not being able to maintain the house and yard, I'll be looking to downsize into a small condo or something where I live independently inside and someone else takes care of everything else outside. My Dad refused to leave his house until the end and it was a burden on us kids. I don't want to go out that way.
 
The way I look at it is that I need a place to live. I can't even rent a one bedroom apartment in my area for what I pay in interest, taxes and insurance. Anything I pay in principle on the mortgage is like a forced savings account that I'll get back eventually. My house hasn't appreciated as quickly as I would have liked, but it's not bad.

When I get to the point of not being able to maintain the house and yard, I'll be looking to downsize into a small condo or something where I live independently inside and someone else takes care of everything else outside. My Dad refused to leave his house until the end and it was a burden on us kids. I don't want to go out that way.
My Mom and Dad were the same way. They stayed in their home way too long. Agree 120%
 
Here , you can " freeze " your assessment if your are 65 or older and below a certain income threshold . We signed up a couple of years ago and avoided the hike this year when all properties were reassessed .
 
That’s because you’re looking at it from your perspective where you’re capable of maintaining and doing small repairs on your properties.

But women, like in OPs case, have a much harder time keeping up with an old house. First it’s because most don’t even know how to, and second they loose their strength a lot quicker than men do. So even a simple chore as going up the attic to change the furnace filter can be outright dangerous.

Ask yourself this, if your wife was left alone for a year, would she be able to maintain and fix little things around the house without outside help? Or if your wife is capable and knowledgeable, just think of someone else you constantly need to help.

There are many elderly people in this kind of situation. Renting is a good option in those cases.
All good points.
In my case, my wife's welfare is my #1 concern. I have a group of knowledgeable friends and excellent workers to deal with issues. The workers have become my friends and are there for me. Importantly, I consider our main home one part of the portfolio; enough $$ in securities is another critical component.

I understand many are not in a financial position to accommodate all this. I hate sounding pompous. I can tell you one thing for sure; being homeless teaches you a very good lesson. That lesson is, contingency planning. And I never wanna be homeless again.
 
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