Propane Prices

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My previous house and current house have Natural Gas for water heater, cloth dryer, cook top and furnace. The pipes at both houses are steel not copper.

I have Weber grill with propane, every year I need to fill 2 5-gallon tanks, I was thinking of running a pipe from water heater in garage to back yard, to use Natural Gas instead of propane for the grill. Looks likes a lot of works to convert the grill from Propane to NG and running a pipe more than 40-50 ft long is not cheap either.
 
At a dollar a gallon for LPG, you are paying for the transportation plus delivery
and getting the product for free.

The point of my two posts was for you to research the topic of LPG
supply and demand in a changing dynamic market, and draw your own
conclusions to the future price and availability.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
My previous house and current house have Natural Gas for water heater, cloth dryer, cook top and furnace. The pipes at both houses are steel not copper.

I have Weber grill with propane, every year I need to fill 2 5-gallon tanks, I was thinking of running a pipe from water heater in garage to back yard, to use Natural Gas instead of propane for the grill. Looks likes a lot of works to convert the grill from Propane to NG and running a pipe more than 40-50 ft long is not cheap either.


Don't tell anyone but you can just drill out the jets in the grill to make them bigger and you have effectively converted from LPG to Natural Gas.

As for piping, when we did stuff like that we ran the pipe ourselves and paid a gas fitter his hourly rate plus a carton of beer to hook it up, test it and sign it off.
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Locking in your money now is risky. The company can go out of business and recovery is difficult.


It's pretty clear you have no idea how a co-op works. Ours is financially healthy-there's nothing risky about it.


I'm glad yours in healthy, but just because your supplier is a coop, does not make it infallible. We had one fail here in the '80s. I think I have some shares from it around here somewhere. Want to buy them?
 
Wow under $1 a gallon. That is really cheap.

I use propane in my grill and for my stove. Last time I got the tank filled for the stove it was $5.25 p/gallon. I take it in the shorts because I don't have any other appliances/heating that use it so I only get a fill every 1-1.5 years. I pay the highest tier pricing. For friends and family who use more of it and have lower tier pricing they still have been paying in excess of $3 a gallon. Might be a Northeast thing like our more expensive gasoline.

Even going to the hardware store to fill the portable tank for the grill costs me $4-$5 a gallon. Propane is not cheap here.
 
Originally Posted By: Donald
I would love to see that with home heating oil. From what I read the storage tanks everywhere are filled to capacity and speculators are leasing super tankers as a plain tank, hoping to hold onto the oil until it goes up in price.


Me too! Heating oil here in NH is extremely expensive. I have an outdoor tank to boot so I have to get either kerosene or a blend w/ kerosene to keep it from gelling. Kerosene was almost $5 a gallon last winter and the blend ran $3.50-$4+ a gallon. I kept my thermostat at 55 last winter because it was so expensive. It did cut my heating oil usage from 600+ gallons down to about 410 though.

Let's not even talk about the electricity rates going up 28% last January.
 
The good news for the NE states, is that SD Bakken crude
that is shipped by rail to your refineries still have the
volatile low boilers in the product.
 
Here in South Florida, I recently paid $535 for 100 gallons propane, delivered. Ugh. (FL Public Utilities Company)

I tried to switch companies to Amerigas, but FL law prevents me from doing so without much heartache, removal of my current 250 gallon in ground tank, and re-inspection of my entire propane system. Which, of course requires in wall access.

My only practical choice for cheaper propane is to dump FPU and cart in a 100 pound portable tank and hook it up myself (which is not a problem) However, when they dig up my current tank, they leave a big hole and don't fill it in.

Since I use about 30-40 gallons per year, I chose the easy route and paid too much.
 
The difference in Propane price from 1 part of the country to another part is more than 400%. If gasoline price is this much different, one part of country may have $2.50/gal and somewhere else may have $12-13/gal.

Can we say the place that sells $5/gal propane is gouging consumers ?
 
two winters ago here, propane went from $2-2.50/gal to nearly $6/gallon over a one month course. Oddly enough the price of a 20lb exchange barely changed $18 to $21 over the same time period and 1lb bottles didn't change at all. The price hike was blamed on extra propane needed to dry grain crops after a damp harvest season by most of the local papers.
 
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