Prolong

Cheff · Dec 16, 2003

Hello all!

Well I love the site, I never knew there were other people that get this much in to their auto or trucks lubrication! I love it!

Ok well, it seems I am very uneducated (I thought I knew all about lubs), and would like to be learned here.

I changed my oil every 3k with castrol syntec 5-30 till my truck got to 25k. Now I am using the 5-50. I also always use a bottle of prolong. Now the more I read on the forums and the rest of the site I see I have fallen in to a trap!!!

I searched and searched but found very little really telling me why Prolong is bad, or good. And there was more bad than good. Can some one answer that for me? Remember I am new and still studing the teminology.

Can I stop using Prolong with no damage to my truck engine? and on my Civic, which has used prolong for more than 70k, will that hurt it if I stop now?

I would love to save the money. But most important, is being learned

Thank you much

Grossomotto · Dec 16, 2003

I saw a late night advertisement for this stuff. They took off a car's valve covers and threw dirt in the engine. Did you try that? It's a good test to see if it's working!

Seriously, there's no addative that's going to give you any better protection than you'll find in the top performing synthetics!

Cheff · Dec 16, 2003

Cool, but will it hurt any of my engines if I stop using it? Especially my Civic that has used it for so long.

LOL you should have seen what they did a the site. Running engines with no oil after a Prolong application. Bearing tests, and a guy stuck his hand in a bucket of it.LOL

Patman · Dec 16, 2003

Welcome aboard Cheff!

It definitely won't hurt your engine to stop using this product. From what I've heard about it, it can actually damage your engine!

I'm moving this topic to our additives section where it'll get more attention.

Cheff · Dec 16, 2003

Thanks Patman. It is great to know that MODS are active and paying attention.

I still cant digest all the info on the this site, it will take me a couple of days.

Pablo · Dec 16, 2003

I would do a couple short oil change intervals to get it all out, or follow the AutoRx routine.

Al · Dec 16, 2003

Prolong is snake oil in my opinion. The FTC agrees. Those T.V. commmercials scammed the public.

PROLONG

Cheff · Dec 16, 2003

WOW, I am so glad I have found you all!!

Please tell me more, this young thread has inspired 4 emails to prolong so far. I dont know why but I think it will inspire much more!

Thank you

TC · Dec 16, 2003

Both their MSDS (below) and their product website adamantly refuse to divulge anything about their "proprietary" ingredient(s) which supposedly reduce metal-to-metal friction, which suggests the obvious: Don't call snake oil, "snake oil." Instead, just call it "proprietary" and put some really slick late-night ads on TV.
P.S. Based on the name, might this product be better suited for erectile dysfunction problems..?

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cach...pdf+prolong+oil+treatment+msds&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[ December 17, 2003, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: TC ]

TC · Dec 16, 2003

Just came across a VOA on this garbage...
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000113

Bill · Dec 16, 2003

Grossomotto,

It you paid careful attention to that Prolong informercial, they used clean dirt!
That makes a big difference in how much the engine will be harmed, therefore, I think the Prolong
did not help the engine in any way.

Bill

crashz · Dec 16, 2003

"The patent also states that Prolong is:
51.5% chlorinated parrafins
31% aromatic solvent
15.5% mineral oil
1% mineral spirits
1% calcium sulfonate"

Chlorinated parrifins are extremely toxic and a known cancer causing agent. And without sufficant TBN boosters, it can turn into a strong acid in the presence of combustion. Yes its a good friction modifier, but at a very high price.

Don't feel bad though. I used it too, befor I was edjumakated!

BTW -

John in the ATL · Dec 17, 2003

Cheff,

The chlorinated parrafins will pit/soften the metal parts in the engine eventually.

Prolong or Restore are additives to use when a car/truck is so worn out that engine failure is a real possibility.

If you are looking for engine additives, do a search for the Schaeffer's #132 or the Lube Control in the Additives, Fuel Cleaner forum.

Cheff · Dec 17, 2003

Thanks for all the info. I will stop using prolong and keep using the castrol syntec. I dont think I will use additives again.

Hasbeen · Dec 17, 2003

Not to pour salt in the wound, but why are you paying a synthetic price for a NON synthetic oil! I`m afraid you have fallen for another scam!!

Hasbeen

Cheff · Dec 17, 2003

? Is Castrol Syntec not synthetic oil?

MolaKule · Dec 17, 2003

No. Syntec is a group II and III oil, which are derived directly from crude fractions and distillations.

Amsoil, Redline, Mobil 1 SS, VP and other mainline oils and others are considered fully synthetic because their base oils are combinations of synthesized hydrocarbons such as Polyalphaolefins and alkylated aromatics, and synthetic and natural esters.

GC may well have some fully synthetic base oil components.

Do a search in the main thread at the top using "syntec," "synthetic," and like keywords.

[ December 18, 2003, 12:32 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

Patman · Dec 17, 2003

I thought Castrol Syntec's base oil was a mix of group 3 and esters?

Sin City · Dec 18, 2003

quote:

Quote from Patman: I thought Castrol Syntec's base oil was a mix of group 3 and esters?

Molakule, where did you hear that Syntec is a mixture of group II and III base oils? Like Patman I thought that Syntec was a mixture of group III and and V (esters).

MolaKule · Dec 19, 2003

GC may be group III, IV, and V, but Syntec has always been major Group III with secondary amounts of Group II and very low levels of esters.

Prolong

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