Production VW ID. Buzz (Modern T1 Microbus) Revealed

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“World premiere of the ID. Buzz and ID. Buzz Cargo
The ID. Buzz lineup is the new face of sustainable mobility
  • First versions will come to European market with 82 kWh battery powering 201-hp electric motor with maximum torque of 229 lb-ft
  • Both models in the ID. Buzz range hark back to the iconic Microbus design and formula of maximum space on a small footprint
  • Sustainability measures include replacing leather with non-animal material, incorporating recycled materials, and organically-based paint
  • European models go on sale this year, with a long-wheelbase passenger model to debut for the North American market in 2023 and go on sale in 2024”
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Very cool, I like it. I think VW is going to be the dominant EV maker in a few years. Others are catching up but VW is really firing on all cylinders (or should I say no cylinders?) with the current lineup. Tesla was cool but too expensive, and reliability/build quality is terrible, as is trying to get service. Now that the big boys are getting in the game in a big way they'll bring actual manufacturing and reliability design engineering to the table.
 
It's cool, though I'd like to see a more square/retro front end with round lights like the originals. I know that's unrealistic due to aerodynamics, fuel economy, modern tastes, etc.
My parents had a Greenbriar van in the 1960s. That would be a cool redo too.
 
K.Aoi said:
Very cool, I like it. I think VW is going to be the dominant EV maker in a few years. Others are catching up but VW is really firing on all cylinders (or should I say no cylinders?) with the current lineup. Tesla was cool but too expensive, and reliability/build quality is terrible, as is trying to get service. Now that the big boys are getting in the game in a big way they'll bring actual manufacturing and reliability design engineering to the table.
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I said it years ago that when the "big boys" got serious about EV's they would crush Tesla.
 
Quattro Pete said:
Nice! I'll take mine in non-clown colors, please.
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I actually like them. I've had too many gray/silver/black cars. When I got the Taos I decided I wanted either the Cornflower Blue (which is what I got) or the Red. I've started to appreciate having cars with a real color. Admittedly, VWs "Pure Gray" is pretty cool looking.
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Vercingetorix said:
I think it will be too small to sell well in the USA once the hipsters buy the first round.
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Given how well small crossovers are selling I don't think that'll be an issue. Especially with gas prices being the way they are. Not everything has to be a massive 5 ton monster.
 
K.Aoi said:
Given how well small crossovers are selling I don't think that'll be an issue. Especially with gas prices being the way they are. Not everything has to be a massive 5 ton monster.
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The issue is costs. Small crossovers are cheap. This wont be.
 
K.Aoi said:
When you factor in tax incentives that's really not too bad. Have you looked up the price of a new actual minivan these days?
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Less than what a new ID4 start for a Sienna LE Hybrid FWD

But the ID Buzz is the only EV that has my interest.

I can see vinyl wrapping be popular on the ID Buzz, since it will have options well outside of what VW will offer from the factory.
 
K.Aoi said:
When you factor in tax incentives that's really not too bad. Have you looked up the price of a new actual minivan these days?
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I own a 2019 Metris. For me it’s the only thing that came close to my 2001 T4. There is a reason sales were poor for the T4 as well. If it doesn’t have stow and go seating, 17 cup holders, 3 tvs, a vacuum etc etc etc it will not do well compared to a Dodge Grand Caravan that costs several thousands less, goes faster and gets better mileage. In the US it is more, not better.
 
Vercingetorix said:
I own a 2019 Metris. For me it’s the only thing that came close to my 2001 T4. There is a reason sales were poor for the T4 as well. If it doesn’t have stow and go seating, 17 cup holders, 3 tvs, a vacuum etc etc etc it will not do well compared to a Dodge Grand Caravan that costs several thousands less, goes faster and gets better mileage. In the US it is more, not better.
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Better mileage? At current gas prices an ID4 or Buzz would probably cost $6-$10 per charge, and close to $100 for one refill on a Sienna or Grand Caravan. Yeah the entry cost might be a little higher but the medium-long term savings on gas are substantial.
 
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