Pro Honda 10w-30 JASO MA VOA

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CivicFK2TypeR

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Hello everyone, here I have a fresh oil analysis of the Pro Honda motorcycle oil, which according to Honda should be used in the future for all motorcycles with 10W30 release in europe.
Whats yout opinion?
Greetings
 
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low viscosity, but should be VII free and thus won't shear. around 3.2 cP HTHS is my guess.

Boron used instead of Moly to keep the friction coefficient up I suppose. Though other 10W-30 MA2 oils do use moly.
 
What's your opinion? Can the oil do something? The TBN is quite low for 12000 kilometre intervals or? The base oil will be mineral-based, somehow it gives me a headache.
 
Sorry, i have done a mistake.
Here is the voa again.

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CivicFK2TypeR said:
Can no one contribute to this? What is your opinion on the oil?
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Sure. In accordance with what you posted, it is a 30-grade oil with a 10W winter rating. It carries a JASO MA license. It would be suitable for those motorcycles that list this type of oil in the owner's manual.

Were you hoping that someone would be able to predict the future performance of this oil based on the typical values from the analysis?
 
I am trying to draw conclusions about the base oil and the groups used on the basis of the IR spectrum.
 
The only thing that makes me think is that the engine oil is offered as mineral oil. I have some concerns whether it protects well against wear and can keep the engine clean as well as a synthetic one.
 
CivicFK2TypeR said:
The only thing that makes me think is that the engine oil is offered as mineral oil. I have some concerns whether it protects well against wear and can keep the engine clean as well as a synthetic one.
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Well, you could find a synthetic oil that meets your needs that will give you piece of mind.?
 
CivicFK2TypeR said:
Unfortunately, I can't do that, only with the use of the original Honda engine oil I can get the 6 year warranty.
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I have a friend who has an older ST1100; approaching 200k miles on it. It was serviced with GN-4 lube at the dealership for the bulk of its lifetime. It's still running to this day, though no longer his daily commuter bike. Oil was changed every 4k to 5k miles as I recall. It still runs well and has no lube-related issues; due for another timing belt change.

And let's face it ... he put WAY more miles on his bike than most folks will ever do. RARE is the bike engine that even hits 100k miles after several owners. The additive package in the oil is sufficient to get the engine to a point far past where most folks will ever use them.

You're constrained to using Honda oil for the extended warranty; there's ZERO risk for your engine. You're worried over nothing if the Honda oil is your concern.
 
These kinds of unfair warranty conditions are prevented with the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US. Lubricant brand is generally a non-issue as long as it meets the spec.
 
This is exactly how it is regulated here in Europe, but the dealer is not obliged to accept delivered engine oil. If the dealer then only works with Honda products, then you have to accept that as a customer. Basically, it is correct that you only have to stick to the specifications, but you also have to find a dealer who accepts and accepts other oil, he has to give warranty on it. But I can understand the manufacturer.
 
The noack is at 11,9%, the Flashpoint is at 230 Celsius.
It is a mineral base oil with group 2/3.
 
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