PQIA Tests 11 More Oils - Five have issues

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Hi Sayjac,

I agree with your comments, and I understand your feeling of comfort from staying with a major oil company brand. There may be a higher probability of corner cutting among small private companies since the profit often falls to the owner's pocket, and funds for testing may be limited. However, although not (yet) found in PQIA testing, even major oil companies have had troublesome oil formulations and quality control issues in the past, including recalls and engine failures. There are no absolute guarantees for the consumer.

Also, quality differences can swing both ways - some small private oil companies are principally driven by higher quality and performance than the cost conscience majors. In fact, performance breakthroughs sometimes come from the smaller companies in their quest to standout from the competition.

PQIA is still young and basically in the start-up stage, but already it has made some positive differences. Several companies whose oils tested out of specification have contacted PQIA to advise that they have bought additional testing equipment, made changes in their quality control systems, or worked with their suppliers to prevent a reoccurrence. They are taking this seriously and don’t want to find their mistakes publicized on the PQIA website again. Other companies who have not yet been tested are reviewing their quality systems to avoid future problems. Egregious offenders have been reported to the appropriate authorities and investigations are underway.

Now that PQIA has a prestigious Advisory Board in place, it can grow more rapidly and make an increasingly larger difference in the marketplace. Look for a lot more activity in the coming months.

Tom NJ
 
Originally Posted By: mongo161
Is Chevron Supreme the same oil as Havoline Supreme?

I don't know if these oils have the same formulation. You may want to contact Chevron.

Tom NJ
 
Tom,

Thanks for your response. Just to clarify one point that I thought of as I was replying in my previous post but didn't post. When I used the term 'non major', I was specifically referring to said no name and/or store brand oils. As you point out, clearly the "boutique" oils like Amsoil, Red Line and others 'seek' higher standards than even some of the majors. I wasn't including them for the sake of discussion in the non major category. That said, I would likely trust respected store names like Napa or even Super Tech if the price difference between them and the majors was great enough. Just generally haven't seen that to be the case.

It is very encouraging to hear though that your testing is already making a difference with some of the companies with out of spec oil. It is to your credit and their's that they are taking the test results seriously.

Keep up the good work. I appreciate your contribution there (PQIA), and here.
 
Originally Posted By: sayjac
It is very encouraging to hear though that your testing is already making a difference with some of the companies with out of spec oil. It is to your credit and their's that they are taking the test results seriously.

Keep up the good work. I appreciate your contribution there (PQIA), and here.


Thanks Sayjac. Just to be clear, I am not an employee of PQIA, just a member of their Advisory Board. The real credit belongs with Tom Glenn, who founded and runs PQIA.

Tom NJ
 
Originally Posted By: mongo161
After seeing Havoline in the stores....Is Chevron Supreme the same oil as Havoline Supreme? In my market area they don't sell Chevron Supreme but they do sell Havoline motor oil. The Havoline Jug even has the identifying Chevron Logo on it.

So why two different brands and if they are the same, why not call them by one name....like Chevron Havoline Supreme?


Thay ARE moving to do this - Havoline is going to be 'Havoline by Chevron' in the form of having the Chevron logo clearly displayed on Havoline bottles in the near future - there is a thread on it here somewhere.
 
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