PQIA issues ANOTHER Consumer Alert – Everclear

[Tom NJ]

PQIA exposes another bogus motor oil. The sample of Everclear 5w30 looks like a straight 20 weight and has little or no additives. Once again, a product masquerading as a motor oil and claiming to protect your engine, when in reality it would likely damage any modern engine.

Petroleum Quality Institute of America

Tom NJ

 

[Johnny]

What do you expect with a name like Everclear.

 

[simple_gifts]

Thanks for that Tom; perhaps the blenders were drinking everclear when they chose the additives.

 

[river_rat]

Fine print on the back of the bottle says it's an API SC oil.

 

[electrolover]

good read! thanx for the post

 

[The Critic]

I fail to understand the purpose of this alert. These oils are clearly labeled to state that they do not meet the latest API SN/ILSAC GF-5 requirements, so why bother testing them? It is up to the consumer's responsibility to read the label before using the product.

On the other hand, I think the intended purpose of PQIA is to test the quality of oils that do claim to meet API SN/ILSAC GF-5, so that it can be confirmed that those oils are actually what they claim to be. We should be more concerned about those oils since there is a far greater potential of damage.

 

[qdeezie]

LOL........when I saw the name Everclear, I thought that it was talking about the grain liquor that was recently pulled off the shelves in NC.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: qdeezie
LOL........when I saw the name Everclear, I thought that it was talking about the grain liquor that was recently pulled off the shelves in NC.


Not to hijack the thread , but no everclear in nc? I did not know that! Its been around for a while ( not that i ever buy it).

 

[stubbakatt]

That Wickliffe Shell in Austintown, OH must have THE worst oil selection. Everclear, Liberty Gold and Bullseye were all purchased at the same location.

 

[Chris142]

Why are they testing non API oils? Wouldn't it be a better idea to test oils that a person would normally buy? Maybe test more private label oils that claim to meet SL,SM or SN specs instead of wasting time on the non detergent stuff?

 

[qdeezie]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: qdeezie
LOL........when I saw the name Everclear, I thought that it was talking about the grain liquor that was recently pulled off the shelves in NC.


Not to hijack the thread , but no everclear in nc? I did not know that! Its been around for a while ( not that i ever buy it).


NC Everclear Banned

 

[Sayjac]

As mentioned above, it seems that an alert should be issued for Wickliffe Shell, for selling a veritable plethora of substandard oil brands. Rather shocking.

 

[ottotheclown]

Ok hey what about when most of the sn oils are available, we test the term synthetics??? All in favor of that raise your hands. Let it be noted alot raised their hands. A L O T> neat thought to look forward to.

 

[Tom NJ]

Originally Posted By: The Critic
I fail to understand the purpose of this alert. These oils are clearly labeled to state that they do not meet the latest API SN/ILSAC GF-5 requirements, so why bother testing them? It is up to the consumer's responsibility to read the label before using the product.

On the other hand, I think the intended purpose of PQIA is to test the quality of oils that do claim to meet API SN/ILSAC GF-5, so that it can be confirmed that those oils are actually what they claim to be. We should be more concerned about those oils since there is a far greater potential of damage.


PQIA’s mission is to serve the consumer of lubricants by monitoring and reporting on the quality of lubricants in the marketplace. It has nothing to do with the API Service Classifications.

The best way to serve consumers is to alert them to the deceptive and damaging products sitting on shelves across the country alongside quality oils. The fact that the label states “SC” on the back label does not excuse claims like “Protects the vital parts of your engine,” and “Combats rust and corrosion,” and “Works throughout a wide range of operating temperatures,” when in fact it does none of these things. Further, this oil is not a 5w30 and does not even meet SC as it has no ZDDP or detergents.

The greatest danger to consumers, especially those who buy on price, is the proliferation of SA and other obsolete oils masquerading as quality motor oils. Not all consumers are as educated as BITOGers. People buy these oils and they sell in very high volumes. PQIA is trying to help these consumers.

Tom NJ

 

[dtt004]

its really simple.

just buy the oils with API certification.

 

[pidster]

Products like this are sold purely through consumer ignorance. If someone were to read the label in detail and understand what they were really buying I doubt anyone would buy it at any price for a worn out lawnmower nevermind a vehicle, even for a quick top up. This oil is not near good enough for anyone's engine, and while it's probably the cheapest thing on the shelf I'd be willing to bet it's not that much less than a "value" brand that at least meets SL or SM. Even when used for top ups in an oil burner, or lawnmower, I wouldn't touch anything that didn't meet at least SJ.

I'd hate to see even an old $300 beater get sludged up to save 25 cents a bottle for top ups, or heaven forbid a full oil change with this trash.

 

[4ever4d]

WOW these are some ugly specs on these oils PQIA is sending alerts on!

 

[tomcat27]

I have family members and friends who have no clue about API certification. fortunately they are at least aware of name brands....

many years ago as a teenager I worked for a large lumber company that bought it's first diesel delivery truck. (all the rest were gas) They were using a large 55 gallon drum of Citgo (SE or SF - I dont recall) anyway, it did not have a "C" (maybe "CD" applied at the time?) certification and was not certified for use in a diesel engine. I'm sure they were a little taken aback to hear this info from a teenager...

 

[BGK]

Originally Posted By: stubbakatt
That Wickliffe Shell in Austintown, OH must have THE worst oil selection. Everclear, Liberty Gold and Bullseye were all purchased at the same location.

Gas stations should not be on your list of places to buy motor oil!

 

[Tom NJ]

Originally Posted By: dtt004
its really simple.

just buy the oils with API certification.


Simple for you and me, yes, but the vast majority of people have no idea what an API Certification is. The 34,000 members of BITOG represent 0.01% of the US population.

We all have information gaps - humans are not perfect, and scam artists exploit these imperfections for profit. One way to protect average oil consumers is by exposing the scammers.

Tom NJ