Pour point in extreme winter temps

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Brule
How useful is a "Viscosity Calculator at a Specific Temperature" in determining low temperature viscosity? Like this one: Viscosity Calculator at a Specific Temperature (ASTM D341)

For example enter "0c" for operational temperature, enter the oil's actual 100 & 40 viscosities and run calculator. Would the resulting number be a good for comparing low temp performance between different oils?


Thank you for the link. I've about the viscosity calculator but never came across it.
Caterham always seems to have some form of intimate knowledge about various oils so I figured if I posed the question to him he might know which additive packages would work best together,and which may not compliment one another.


Visc calcs lose their accuracy below 0C IIRC.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: volk06
If you go to mobile website the pds are pretty easy to find. Good luck on the Castrol and pennzoil ones.


They're all there...

 

[KlooksKleek]

Originally Posted By: volk06
If you go to mobile website the pds are pretty easy to find. Good luck on the Castrol and pennzoil ones.


Thanks for that tip. I was able to do so for Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 and regular 5w30, and sure enough I found the MRV values on their respective sheets. But when I tried to find MRV for my favorites in the EP line I can only locate a PDS that shows all three EPs at once: 5W-20, 5w30 and 10w30. Although various data is shown on this all-in-one PDS, the MRV number is not.

Weird.

Would definitely like to know the MRV of 5W-20 EP and 5w30 EP, to compare against the values of these other oils being posted. Will keep looking.

 

[Willscary]

My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Willscary
My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!


Your location says Wisconsin. Unless your up in Alaska,the Northwest Territories or the Yukon you'd be south of me.
I did take the plunge today and the AFE went into my hemi. So far no complaints

 

[SLCraig]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Willscary
My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!


Your location says Wisconsin. Unless your up in Alaska,the Northwest Territories or the Yukon you'd be south of me.
I did take the plunge today and the AFE went into my hemi. So far no complaints


I just started my first run ever of AFE as well and it's been running the same as ever. (no complaints) Cold starts is why I went with it this time around obviously.

 

[Willscary]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Willscary
My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!


Your location says Wisconsin. Unless your up in Alaska,the Northwest Territories or the Yukon you'd be south of me.
I did take the plunge today and the AFE went into my hemi. So far no complaints


I was replying to the poster just prior to me who looked to be from Chicago. The poster has the same vehicle and motor that I do, so I replied.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Willscary
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Willscary
My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!


Your location says Wisconsin. Unless your up in Alaska,the Northwest Territories or the Yukon you'd be south of me.
I did take the plunge today and the AFE went into my hemi. So far no complaints


I was replying to the poster just prior to me who looked to be from Chicago. The poster has the same vehicle and motor that I do, so I replied.



Fair enough.

K. So I've got about 1600kms on the AFE now. The bottom end noise I first heard is gone,top end is quiet. That darned tig might be on to something.
And I seemed to have gained 1-2 mpg on the highway. I've gone through 3 tanks of fuel now and it's getting no less than 18mpg.
I was using Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20 before. I didn't think there would be this much of a difference between the 2 but obviously something changed. Oil pressure is a bit lower. Hot idle it used to be just over the halfway point on the gauge,now it's at center.
If it wasn't so expensive,or would at least go on sale I think I would stick with it,but walmarts Pennzoil Platinum deals are hard to beat.
We will see......

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Willscary
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Willscary
My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!


Your location says Wisconsin. Unless your up in Alaska,the Northwest Territories or the Yukon you'd be south of me.
I did take the plunge today and the AFE went into my hemi. So far no complaints


I was replying to the poster just prior to me who looked to be from Chicago. The poster has the same vehicle and motor that I do, so I replied.



Fair enough.

K. So I've got about 1600kms on the AFE now. The bottom end noise I first heard is gone,top end is quiet. That darned tig might be on to something.
And I seemed to have gained 1-2 mpg on the highway. I've gone through 3 tanks of fuel now and it's getting no less than 18mpg.
I was using Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20 before. I didn't think there would be this much of a difference between the 2 but obviously something changed. Oil pressure is a bit lower. Hot idle it used to be just over the halfway point on the gauge,now it's at center.
If it wasn't so expensive,or would at least go on sale I think I would stick with it,but walmarts Pennzoil Platinum deals are hard to beat.
We will see......


Just get it from the US, the 5 quart bottles are $25

 

[Willscary]

I get Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 at the local Walmart for $25 for 5 qt jug, and on sale at times for $21.95 USD. My mileage is really good and cold weather starts have been superb. Sitting outside on a -15F night and the little 4 cylinder fires right up and even cranks quite quickly.

 

[momomeister]

OP, the pour point of GC is -65 Fahrenheit.

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/p,q/Edge_BLACK_PDS_Sept_2011.pdf

 

[CATERHAM]

Originally Posted By: SLCraig
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Willscary
My 2012 Sonata Limited (2.4DI) has had nothing but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 for the last 11 months (bought it just over a year ago) and I have no complaints up here 3+ hours north of you!


Your location says Wisconsin. Unless your up in Alaska,the Northwest Territories or the Yukon you'd be south of me.
I did take the plunge today and the AFE went into my hemi. So far no complaints


I just started my first run ever of AFE as well and it's been running the same as ever. (no complaints) Cold starts is why I went with it this time around obviously.

The advantage of Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 is that it's hard to beat it's extreme cold performance spec's at -40 degrees, a temperature that's not uncommon in the Canadian West where Clevy resides.
Of course we don't see temp's that cold in Southern Ontario where temp's closer to the freezing mark are more the norm.
The best Cdn 0W-20 value is the Toyota 0W-20 at $5.65/L.
While Mobil 1 0W-20 will likely pump faster at -40 degrees, at more typical winter temp's the Toyota oil will be lighter; a full 35% lighter at 0C.
Just something to keep in mind for next winter.