Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
I get a MPG less than you on my last tank and 3 mpg less average since April with gas. (In a $14k OTD car..)
Bummer that Diesel jumped up and went way beyond what gas cost.
I would not make any buying decisions on the current price structure, as the current structure is not rooted in reality, but rather speculation by two large commodity trading firms with strong ties to the central european bank and an american carbon trading corporation founded by a prominent democrat in an election year (yes - it *IS* that simple)
Diesel and other distillates are far easier to produce than hydrocracked products, and are needed in smaller quantities. If and when this corrects - diesel will be the cheaper buy. And if and when hydrocarbon stocks far below demand (if they have not already) then distillates will likely be the ONLY fuel produced.
Cost per gallon is but a small issue, if you are sweating the different between $4 and $4.80 (the current price swing where I live) then you will have trouble fronting up the $14K for an 'OTD' car or even $25K for a TDI.
Conservation, while not a solution or even part of the solution, is not foolhardy and the fact remains: those at or near diesel numbers are simply using less. now, it is by choice, soon, it will be by force. Do you want to be ahead of that curve or behind it?
(btw, bio-D works in all Navistar, Cummins, GM, VAG, Isuzu, Mistsubishi and MB diesels sold in the US. That for the most part comprises 'all' no?)
For an added bonus, here is a little math problem I solved a few months back and posted in various places around the world. The facts revealed should be sobering to say the least:
Originally Posted By: I
Consider if you will, the yearly 'habit' of gasoline consumption in the USA.
Right now, the US consumes 146 BILLION (with a B) gallons of gas every year. This is not diesel, this is not jet fuel, this is not heating oil or any other fuel oil, but rather gas, that goes into cars and SUVs.
If we were to jump on the environmentalist bandwagon, and replace fossil fuel consumption with biofuels - for gas only - what would this entail?
At current technologies, we can extract 335 gallons of 'ethanol' from an acre of ground. Advances using different plants and techniques are being looked at that boost this closer to 800, but right now, we know how to do 335 gallons per acre.
Simple math says that to replace our gasoline ONLY, we need 436 Million (with an M) acres of tillable ground. Since we live in a country that is comprised of 2,380,000,000 (that’s almost 2.4 Billion) acres, this means we need to use 18% of the landmass of the US to grow these crops.
Not a problem right?
The USA currently has 20% of its landmass available for agriculture. The term is 'tillable land'. Simple math once again says we can grow crops for gas, but this leaves 2% of the landmass for farming. The net effect? We will grow 1/10th of the food. Well I suppose that’s one way to fight the obesity problem.
"What if we irrigate more land?!" you say…
Ok, lets look at this: of stored water, agriculture NOW, takes 85% of the water. Oooops.
I have only addressed gasoline.
'Transportation fuels', of which gasoline is yes a large part, only comprise of 55-60% of the oil we use.
It would seem to me, that the loss of oil might have a slight effect on US civilization. The heck with the rest of the world.
Clearly, conservation is not going to help (which is not the same as saying we should not conserve).
Only a massive technology shift coupled with a super massive decrease in population will ensure our survival.
I, of course, recommend getting rid of people with an aggressive schedule. One that can be summed up as: "people I don’t happen to like" or "people who cant drive". Of course, if you are female, cute and willing to show boobies, we can cut a deal.