Porch Pirates

[alarmguy]

It is a criminal offense to set up dangerous booby traps, because they may indiscriminately harm innocent people who have a right to be there such as first responders or good samaritans. This law has been in effect for hundreds of years since it was once popular to set bear-trap like "man-traps" to stop trespassers.

The principle has nothing to do with law suits by trespassers.

Almost all of the videos are staged or AI.

This is very possible but read post #36 as well. It does have to do with lawsuits by trespassers assuming we are talking about the same thing.
"Civil Liability
Civil liability arises when an injured party seeks compensation for harm caused by booby traps. Property owners who set such devices may face lawsuits alleging negligence or intentional harm. The law generally requires property owners to maintain reasonably safe premises, even for trespassers. Courts often view booby traps as inherently dangerous, allowing injured trespassers to pursue claims for damages."

 

[JimPghPA]

Maybe its time drones are used to take out the perps radiator and vehicles AC condenser, while leaving no traceable link to where the drone originated from.

A metal bar with a chisel point, hitting head on into a vehicles front would do a lot of damage to send a message.

No physical harm to perp. Cost to repair and hassle of disabled vehicle would exceed value of items stolen.

When the juice ain't worth the squeeze the perps might reconsider their chosen profession, and figure out that satain ain't dealing them a square hand.

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Just sayin that there's ways intelligent people can repel these thieves, strongly, while remaining isolated from being associsted as the ones who delt out the bad karma.

Maybe if car thieves and porch pirates were maced by civilian drones with no trace of origin, they just might leave things alone.

 

[slo town]

While surfing internet junk out of boredom a few nights ago I watched a porch pirate video where someone was sticking their arm through the mail slot on someone's front door, reaching inside, trying to grab the mail.

Wall mounted indoor camera showed the homeowner walk up with a baseball bat and go savage on the person's arm. The wails of pain were unreal. Yikes!

Scott

 

[goblin]

This is very possible but read post #36 as well. It does have to do with lawsuits by trespassers assuming we are talking about the same thing.
"Civil Liability
Civil liability arises when an injured party seeks compensation for harm caused by booby traps. Property owners who set such devices may face lawsuits alleging negligence or intentional harm. The law generally requires property owners to maintain reasonably safe premises, even for trespassers. Courts often view booby traps as inherently dangerous, allowing injured trespassers to pursue claims for damages."

Fair enough.
Me and you create and register a gaming club. We call it "The Booby-trap club". The point of our club is a game where we send booby-trapped packages to each other, and each one of us is supposed to figure out whether the package we just received is booby-trapped or not. There is one safe way to open the package safely, always. The hint for safe opening is in the emails or coms we exchange.

Tags on the package will clearly say "The Booby-trap club". Or :"Glitter boom club".

I made this up in the time it took me to write this, and lawyer-friend will bulletproof it for a beer.

 

[y_p_w]

If I were to guess many/most of these videos are staged so they can make viral youtube, instagram and tiktok videos. Kind of reminds me of all the people making fake Karen videos for social media. The acting is so bad I wonder if they actually think they fooling anyone.
People will fake anything these days for a little attention & a few dollars.

There are a lot of these that are real. Many set up doorbell or various security cameras because they've been hit by porch pirates before. Maybe some of the more extreme ones are staged but honestly there's a lot of package theft.

If I have anything worth more than $20 being delivered by Amazon, I prefer to pick it up at one of their Amazon Locker locations.

 

[97prizm]

I've really enjoyed myself over the last few days watching videos of porch pirates having paint squirted all over them, being showered by water jets, being shot at with paint balls, or having a box they're running away with blow up - sometimes fairly violently.

In many of these cases the porch pirate falls right off the front steps, or yells something like "my eyes, I can't see", and I'd have to think their clothing is often ruined by the shower of paint.

It's great fun to watch, and probably great fun to do it too, but do you suppose there is any liability for doing these things to thieves.

If they're really smart then no. Not many will admit to stealing a package and getting glitter bombed.

 

[97prizm]

If I were to guess many/most of these videos are staged so they can make viral youtube, instagram and tiktok videos. Kind of reminds me of all the people making fake Karen videos for social media. The acting is so bad I wonder if they actually think they fooling anyone.
People will fake anything these days for a little attention & a few dollars.

Mark Rober is a former nasa engineer who was tired of this and created a few of these. In fact one couple stole a package in front of their son and opened it at home. The kid instantly recognized the package and the youtuber who built it.

 

[ecotourist]

I've seen a few that were obviously AI (paint squirting out of a front door) but others seem real. Who would want to fall off a step and land on their bottom on a concrete walkway? People sometimes limp away.

The most intriguing ones were the small explosions. Nothing too fierce except for a bang and maybe some confetti. The package usually went off as the pirate was leaving the yard. I wondered if they were timed (started when they moved the box) or were set off when they crossed an underground pet perimeter wire or set off by remote control.

If any of these things happen to someone you can hope they will give up on the pirate business.

 

[honeeagle]

mostly AI (not real)

 

[y_p_w]

If they're really smart then no. Not many will admit to stealing a package and getting glitter bombed.

The strange thing is that many of these porch pirates abandoned the surprise package later because they were worried that there might be some other nasty surprise. Obviously trying to sue the person who did it would then open that thief up to criminal charges. But often they were hoping to get the packages back to reuse the contraption.

 

[RooflessVW]

I've seen a few that were obviously AI (paint squirting out of a front door) but others seem real. Who would want to fall off a step and land on their bottom on a concrete walkway? People sometimes limp away.

The most intriguing ones were the small explosions. Nothing too fierce except for a bang and maybe some confetti. The package usually went off as the pirate was leaving the yard. I wondered if they were timed (started when they moved the box) or were set off when they crossed an underground pet perimeter wire or set off by remote control.

If any of these things happen to someone you can hope they will give up on the pirate business.

Look closely at the individual scenes, the channel posting the compilations, and the comments.

 

[supton]

Seemed like there was an "explosion" of these videos in my youtube suggestions last week; after watching a couple, I came to the conclusion that they were AI and stopped. Much fun in seeing ne'er-do-wells get what they have coming--but I'm not sure I want to condone violence either, and certainly not support AI.

 

[vwmaniaman]

I would sooner have the sprinklers near the porch come on when the box is lifted. I doubt they would try it again at that house.

 

[zzyzzx]

As I've said before, it'd help if people wouldn't buy stolen merch. Many people here have no clue how stolen merch is sold.

 

[zzyzzx]

A lot of the newer ones are AI and even have the Sora2 logo on them, just like the cat stealing fish and getting pulled over videos.

 

[Pablo]

Most of them are AI

No one mentioned this

 

[nomas]

I wonder if they are mostly AI ?

 

[honeeagle]

mostly AI (not real)

ahh

 

[TimeFlies]

Some friends of mine, have had many Amazon packages stolen. So they simply filled Amazon boxes with old bricks, when they redid their fire pit. Thieves are then having to carry a very heavy box, only to later open it, and find broken, old bricks. They managed over time, to get all of the old bricks cleaned up, without making a single dump run.

 

[Learn Ya]

You will be sued and almost certainly lose. The argument that if the person didn't steal it, it wouldn't have happened, won't help.

Sad but true. Unfortunately, too many judges and juries view criminals as victims.