You explained this principle then turned around and said trespassers have sued and won lawsuits. Trespassing is a "wrongful act" and if they weren't trespassing, they couldn't have slipped and fell on someone else's property. A porch pirate 1) trespassed and 2) stole property.
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If I were to guess many/most of these videos are staged so they can make viral youtube, instagram and tiktok videos. Kind of reminds me of all the people making fake Karen videos for social media. The acting is so bad I wonder if they actually think they fooling anyone.
People will fake anything these days for a little attention & a few dollars.
People will fake anything these days for a little attention & a few dollars.
I am going to assume you are replying to me. Consider none of this legal advice, simply my uneducated opinion.
Yes and I also said anyone can sue anyone at anytime for anything, and a judge / jury can rule any way they want. Even if supreme court has ruled otherwise. Told to me by very successful trial lawyer - but you can observe this yourself. So just because the law is on your side doesn't mean you win, especially civil case. This is well understood amongst lawyers, and the reason you don't want to end up in court for any reason, even if your right.
So if you still want to discuss the facts.
In the case of someone stealing a glitter bomb, the clean hands doctrine clearly applies IMHO - the person is committing a crime. But as mentioned I am not a judge so my opinion is worth exactly the zero you paid for it.
However a judge could simply ignore the clean hands doctrine, or decide your glitter bomb was a pre-meditated violent act vs the relatively minor petty theft, or may rule that you intended to harm someone and ignore the petty theft.
Glitter bombs still funny. I wouldn't plant one due to liability.
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Liability? You bet, especially places like NYC, L.I. and the surrounding areas with ambulance chasing attorneys advertising on TV. I'd love to participate in messing with them, but I wouldn't risk it.
This thread has me thinking, if I only had my dog..........I'd have to clean up after him, plastic bag the you know what. Then instead of tossing it maybe Amazon box it, and surprise when they open it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably in their car or at their home. Maybe not so much liability there? 
Possible retaliation? Food for thought for dog owners who don't live in fear..................
Possible retaliation? Food for thought for dog owners who don't live in fear..................
If you have a dog they likely go nuts when anyone gets close to the house - hence no porch pirates - scares them off.This thread has me thinking, if I only had my dog..........I'd have to clean up after him, plastic bag the you know what. Then instead of tossing it maybe Amazon box it, and surprise when they open it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably in their car or at their home. Maybe not so much liability there?
My two little dogs sit at the front window - bark crazily at the same UPS guy daily.
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Good point, but these guys are brazen, especially now in the cold weather with it getting dark early. They see a package grab it and bolt, doors are usually shut tight. Many only have to run 50' or less to their car. There's a good chance someone might be able to pull it off.
What if the box you employ, is not traceable to you?
In some areas a posted sign is all you need for a trespassing warning and some legal coverage.
As I've said before, it'd help if people wouldn't buy stolen merch. Many people here have no clue how stolen merch is sold.
I've seen a few of these compilation videos cross my feed over the last week and they have all been AI
I can only imagiine when a porch pirate gets covered in dye and has to go back to where ever they live must be halarious ..i dont have spelll check. lol
My daughter has a small tattoo supply company and is in a neighborhood where there are a good amount of porch pirates. She has a VERY old house 1884 with a front porch that I installed window blocks with 3/4 plywood on the entry door and the window a side of it to reduce a smash and door knob grab. I installed a coded entry door handle the US Mail knows the code and the UPS and FedEx gets sent the code on those packages. She has the US MAIL pick up her boxes for delivery smaller side boxes, but she can have 2 tote size bags full. She was going to use UPS but got massive attitudes and non pickups.
The young US Mail guy is Gem, he puts all her stuff in inside the pouch what the lazy UPS/FedEx guys do not do which is about 40% of their delivery's (UPS/Fed). He has driven by after 1.5 hrs of delivering her stuff and stopped to put in what the lazy UPS/FedEx guys wouldn't do, that has happened multiple times. He doesn't know it yet, but he is getting a $500 Visa card for Xmas this year.
The young US Mail guy is Gem, he puts all her stuff in inside the pouch what the lazy UPS/FedEx guys do not do which is about 40% of their delivery's (UPS/Fed). He has driven by after 1.5 hrs of delivering her stuff and stopped to put in what the lazy UPS/FedEx guys wouldn't do, that has happened multiple times. He doesn't know it yet, but he is getting a $500 Visa card for Xmas this year.
If you must steal porch boxes, please wear safety glasses,,lol
I know this wasnt in response to me (I think)
However you can be sued by anyone in this world. If you severely hurt someone for something minor like attempting to steal an Amazon package you are opening a can of worms if that person sues you. There is endless amount of cases where the criminal prevailed. There are also some homeowners who went to jail for some extreme measures. Such as setting up a shotgun if someone opened the front door.
Anyway. This is one tiny example for a case many decades ago "The Iowa Supreme Court said no, concluding, “the law has always placed a higher value upon human safety than upon mere rights in property.”
https://chicago.suntimes.com/column...s-trespass-homeowners-wasmund-katko-steinberg
Dozens of cases ... here is a more moderate one
https://retro1025.com/colorado-couple-arrested-for-elaborate-booby-trap-on-front-porch/
Last but the main jest of this thread is this "The law generally requires property owners to maintain reasonably safe premises, even for trespassers"
"Civil Liability
Civil liability arises when an injured party seeks compensation for harm caused by booby traps. Property owners who set such devices may face lawsuits alleging negligence or intentional harm. The law generally requires property owners to maintain reasonably safe premises, even for trespassers. Courts often view booby traps as inherently dangerous, allowing injured trespassers to pursue claims for damages."
Source = https://legalclarity.org/are-booby-traps-illegal-what-you-need-to-know/
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It is a criminal offense to set up dangerous booby traps, because they may indiscriminately harm innocent people who have a right to be there such as first responders or good samaritans. This law has been in effect for hundreds of years since it was once popular to set bear-trap like "man-traps" to stop trespassers.
The principle has nothing to do with law suits by trespassers.
Almost all of the videos are staged or AI.
The principle has nothing to do with law suits by trespassers.
Almost all of the videos are staged or AI.
^^This^^
People keep repeating this. Admittedly I've not watched any new videos, then old ones were not AI.
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