Polishes and black paint

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Originally Posted By: ionbeam22
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: ionbeam22
Grampi, save yourself the frustration. Use some meg's swirlX/KIT Scratch Out , and then follow up with Eagle 1 Nanowax (liquid). Keep it fresh by dusting off the bike and using E1 Nanowax spray.



I've already tried the McGuiar's Swirl-X, which isn't aggressive enough. Which is why I've moved up to more aggressive products such as Scratch-X and Ultimate Compound. And why would I use Eagle 1 wax when I have a far superior product in Duragloss?


You aren't going to get rid of fine surface hazing with an agressive compound, you need something ultrafine and soft. I wouldn't be surprised if after using the Meg's ultimate compound, you now have a paint surface with "compounding haze".

E1 Nanowax liquid does a good job of filling in surface blemishes.



I don't want to "fill" the blemishes, I want to remove them. Maybe you've missed some of my posts, but I've explained that I started with the mildest polish and when that didn't remove the blemishes, I moved up to a more aggressive polish, which evetually led to the Ultimate Compound. Yes, the UC does cause some hazing, but that can be removed by working my way back down through the polishes from the most harsh to the mildest. I'm not making this stuff up, this is coming from people who know what they're doing when it comes to paint care.
 
You can also post pictures on meguires online forum or autogeek online forum. I like BITOG but if you are serious about appearance of your vehicle, those are the type of places you need to frequent.

- Vikas
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
You can also post pictures on meguires online forum or autogeek online forum. I like BITOG but if you are serious about appearance of your vehicle, those are the type of places you need to frequent.

- Vikas


I don't find pics posted on the net very helpful. I really can't see what's going on unless I can see the surface in person. I try to get my info from a number of sources. Sometimes the best suggestions come from the last place you'd expect them to come from.
 
I had good luck using M105 with hand and also with El Cheap $15 6" buffer from walmart on my all of "cheap" cars (all asian) However, the same method did not work as well on my brothers "expensive" (german) car. The BMW black clearcoat became shiny but I could not remove spider web of scratches.

You could try M105 but given you have already tried UC, I am not sure it would be worthwhile for you to purchase sample M105 over the internet. If you can find somebody local who can trade some sample of M105, you should give that a shot. I spent over twenty dollar last year for sample of M105 l and I am almost ready to put another order in for M105 and M205. Over the years, I have spent/wasted hundreds and hundreds of dollars in polishes and waxes and I can tell you that M105 has great bang for buck.

Harbor Freight sells cheap rotaries (~$50) and in theory with the right pads you could correct your paint. However, you could destroy the paint very easily with the rotary. HF does not sell any Dual Action orbiter at cheap price.

Something just occurred to me. Have you tried Quixx $15 kit? It is $15 at your local Wallyword and if you do not like it, they will take it back. Try some test spot with #1 and #2 tubes from that kit. You have nothing to lose.

- Vikas
 
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Originally Posted By: Vikas
I had good luck using M105 with hand and also with El Cheap $15 6" buffer from walmart on my all of "cheap" cars (all asian) However, the same method did not work as well on my brothers "expensive" (german) car. The BMW black clearcoat became shiny but I could not remove spider web of scratches.

You could try M105 but given you have already tried UC, I am not sure it would be worthwhile for you to purchase sample M105 over the internet. If you can find somebody local who can trade some sample of M105, you should give that a shot. I spent over twenty dollar last year for sample of M105 l and I am almost ready to put another order in for M105 and M205. Over the years, I have spent/wasted hundreds and hundreds of dollars in polishes and waxes and I can tell you that M105 has great bang for buck.

Harbor Freight sells cheap rotaries (~$50) and in theory with the right pads you could correct your paint. However, you could destroy the paint very easily with the rotary. HF does not sell any Dual Action orbiter at cheap price.

Something just occurred to me. Have you tried Quixx $15 kit? It is $15 at your local Wallyword and if you do not like it, they will take it back. Try some test spot with #1 and #2 tubes from that kit. You have nothing to lose.

- Vikas


Each time I wash my bike now I'll do an application of some UC on the problem areas and they do seem to be deminishing. Once I'm finally able to completely remove the marks I will go over the same areas with Scratch-X, and then with Swirl-X to remove the haze. I'll then apply a coat of Duragloss to finish and I should be good to go.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
If you are looking for over the counter try Mequire's heavy duty car cleaner followed by #7 glaze and you'll be impressed. If you want even better results you'll have to use PC or equivalent random orbiter polisher. I love Griots Garage machine cleaners and polishes - they remove swirls nicely.


Is the Heavy Duty Car Cleaner more or less harsh than the Ultimate Compound?



NOT at all. It's a chemical cleaner with mild abrasives that break done finer and finer. It really does work well. One of the few Mequires over the counter stuff I still stock. VERY safe to use.


How is "not at all" an answer to is it more or less harsh?


It's less harsh. There, ya happy now?
 
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