Polestar Exiting US Market

[JeffKeryk]

The government deciding which auto makers are available in our market is scary on many levels. A favorite topic (that takes palce in many forms on this forum) is affordability-yet a company that could solve this issue, such as BYD can't sell here either.

Protectionism is nothing new. Anywhere in the world, especially in China.

 

[loneryder]

That’s unfortunate. Polestar made some attractive vehicles, and we are considering an EV for the next car.

I guess we’ll have to go with the Taycan, instead…

As @JeffKeryk says, what’s a poor boy to do?

I see a lot of them in No. Va and think they are good looking. I had no idea they were Chinese made. The sedan is really nice looking with a wide stance.

 

[Astro14]

Interesting... As the author of perhaps thousands of software solution modifications, I can tell you, the end user is the only real test. Your product is not tested until it hits the masses and all their attempts to destroy it, unintentional and otherwise.

Not saying it's right, but the price of progress is high.

Just my experience.

Again, it’s fine in software when software doesn’t really do anything important.

But when dealing with control systems on cars, structures on aircraft, reliability of medically implanted devices, for example, that kind of error rate would be abhorrent and criminal.

I guess it’s another way of saying that software doesn’t really do anything important. Because if it did, you would never accept that error rate.

The software that’s installed in a weapons control system in a military aircraft, for example, has nowhere near that failure rate. It’s been tested before it’s deployed.

The software that’s installed in a pacemaker has to be perfect.

You don’t test it on the end user.

The idea that the end user is your beta tester is unethical, even if it is common.

 

[GON]

Again, it’s fine in software when software doesn’t really do anything important.

But when dealing with control systems on cars, structures on aircraft, reliability of medically implanted devices, for example, that kind of error rate would be abhorrent and criminal.

I guess it’s another way of saying that software doesn’t really do anything important. Because if it did, you would never accept that error rate.

The software that’s installed in a weapons control system in a military aircraft, for example, has nowhere near that failure rate. It’s been tested before it’s deployed.

The software that’s installed in a pacemaker has to be perfect.

You don’t test it on the end user.

The idea that the end user is your beta tester is unethical, even if it is common.

Quite sure lobbyists have done an outstanding job getting legislation passed to hold harmless, by law, the technology companies, and their business practices. I know of know other industries that have been so successful in their ability to deliver a product/service, and be held harmless by federal statutes.

 

[CKN]

Protectionism is nothing new. Anywhere in the world, especially in China.

True-just read an article today stating the average USED VEHICLE is $30,000.00-the highest in three years. It would help to open our markets to cheaper new cars-to make cheaper new cars. Don't you think?

 

[JeffKeryk]

Again, it’s fine in software when software doesn’t really do anything important.

But when dealing with control systems on cars, structures on aircraft, reliability of medically implanted devices, for example, that kind of error rate would be abhorrent and criminal.

I guess it’s another way of saying that software doesn’t really do anything important. Because if it did, you would never accept that error rate.

The software that’s installed in a weapons control system in a military aircraft, for example, has nowhere near that failure rate. It’s been tested before it’s deployed.

The software that’s installed in a pacemaker has to be perfect.

You don’t test it on the end user.

The idea that the end user is your beta tester is unethical, even if it is common.

Astro, I am not disagreeing with the importance. I've been a strict adherent to test procedure test levels. I urged groups of testers to do destructive testing; don't just focus on what it is supposed to do as that's the easy part; hammer on it! Products real test is production due to the vast amount of additional variables introduced.

IMO, if I was delivering poor performing applications, what was I getting paid for? Testing is key, almost as important as understanding the business need being addressed.

 

[demarpaint]

Sounds like good news to me.

 

[Patman]

Sounds like good news to me.

Why? I don’t think it’s ever a good thing when people aren’t allowed to buy what they want. And Polestar makes a good EV.