Does anyone know anything about this stuff? Fairly plain black bottle, with the API starburst on the front. The back has the SM rating, and it says that is has passed the API's stricted testing and is approved for turbo use. The bottom of the bottle has the "G" emblem that is on the bottom of Havoline, Pennzoil, etc. It's probably a decent $1 oil.
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on more than one occasion I used this oil when it was sold in the 10w30 variety. 10w40 and dexron lll is all the local sams carries now. this is re-refined motor oil of the open loop variety. the pick-up points for gathering used oil is not controlled.the quality checks of the end products are. I guess you could also consider these "green" oils.some virgin crudes can be had for ~1.00 with rebates.
I don't understand the taboo with re-refineed oils.
If they are hydrotreated (as they need to be to get the SM rating)the oil is good to go. The oil is already purer than crude when we pour it out of our crankcases and take it into recylce it. Any "odd" contaminants in the oil are removed during the high heat and high pressure hydrogen process. Contamination is removed the same as sulfer, water,aromatics and other unwanted elements are removed from virgin crude.
If they are hydrotreated (as they need to be to get the SM rating)the oil is good to go. The oil is already purer than crude when we pour it out of our crankcases and take it into recylce it. Any "odd" contaminants in the oil are removed during the high heat and high pressure hydrogen process. Contamination is removed the same as sulfer, water,aromatics and other unwanted elements are removed from virgin crude.
if it's SM.. I say it's good to go from 3-5k OCIs
I haven't seen it yet, but I look forward to it.
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I have to agree with Brynccfshr.
As long as the contaminants have been removed and it has gone through the normal distillation process(es), this is a great way to conserve resources, especially if the price is right.
Also, a good VOA/UOA comparison would be nice to see how it performs.
As long as the contaminants have been removed and it has gone through the normal distillation process(es), this is a great way to conserve resources, especially if the price is right.
Also, a good VOA/UOA comparison would be nice to see how it performs.
Unfortunately, it was only sold by the case. I may end up buying a case to run in pressure washers, generators, and mowers. I would be very curious to see the VOA. I guess it's not the fact that it's re-refined that turned me off, it's the fact that a really good, virgin dino can be had for the same price.
I have a suspicion that many of the oil from big name are indeed using re-refined base stock, but didn't tell us because of the negative impression.
If a base-stock has the same purity and chemical structure, will you be able to tell the difference?
FYI most diamond you buy from the jewelers are non-virgin diamond, they are buy back from people who trade-in old jeweries and pop-off, sorted, and framed back onto a new ring. Only those who claims to be "virgin diamond" are new (if you consider something that has been in the ground millions of years new).
If a base-stock has the same purity and chemical structure, will you be able to tell the difference?
FYI most diamond you buy from the jewelers are non-virgin diamond, they are buy back from people who trade-in old jeweries and pop-off, sorted, and framed back onto a new ring. Only those who claims to be "virgin diamond" are new (if you consider something that has been in the ground millions of years new).
I never understood the taboo around -modern- recycled oils either. Perhaps old experiences died hard. The stuff is indeed purer than the oil that comes out of the ground and is pumped through the oil rigs that suck it up.
Used oil is already in a fairly pure state. Engine wear and blowby/storage contaminants are the only thing that needs to be removed at this point, then add in the protection package and rebottle.
Used oil is already in a fairly pure state. Engine wear and blowby/storage contaminants are the only thing that needs to be removed at this point, then add in the protection package and rebottle.
More Re-Refined fun: http://www.evergreenoil.com/oilinc.html
Thanks guys, this is great info. So let me get this straight, the oil that is picked up from recycling centers and re-refined, is sometimes more pure than base oils in dino? Like someone said before, the recycling centers aren't really controlled. I know I've dropped in some oil that may have antifreeze and rain water mixed in.
Is this oil available only at Sams Club? I do not recall seeing it at Autozone (but then again, I wasn't looking for it).
Re-refined oil could be the way to go for less than a $1.00 per qt. for private label dino oil. Think about it for a minute. There is no pumping out of the ground cost, and no advertising cost to raise the cost of the oil. Sure there is the normal transportation and refining cost but, once the oil is refined, what difference does it make wheather the oil comes from the ground or used oil from our engines?
Only brand new motor oil for my car thank you.
Can anyone else confirm that this stuff if re-refined oil? It is not marked as such on the bottle or on the case....but maybe it doesn't have to be.
My Sam's Club has piles of this stuff. I know the opinions on re-refined oil vary widely, but if it is re-refined, why would anyone buy this stuff over virgin Walmart XOM Supertech for about the same price??
My Sam's Club has piles of this stuff. I know the opinions on re-refined oil vary widely, but if it is re-refined, why would anyone buy this stuff over virgin Walmart XOM Supertech for about the same price??
Why not? A Re Refined Grp II base stock should produce the same quality oil as regular GRP II base stocks when fully formulated in whole or in part as a cinventional or syn blend. You never know who may be using re refined base stocks. If it meets the standards it is sold as a commodity. Maybe even a major brand has used it considering base oil shortages following Katrina. And if so I have no problem using it.
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