Pennzoil Euro AV

[vronline]

This is probably the wrong forum, but... I was at AutoZone and picked up a bunch of $2 synthetic oil. As I was finishing my shopping, I noticed a lone quart of Pennzoil Euro AV 5w30 and grabbed it as well. When I got home, I noticed that it says "SPECIALLY FORMULATED FOR EUROPEAN DIESEL VEHICLES". It is API SN, ACEA C3, and VW 502.00/505.00/505.01.

I'm assuming all I need to worry about is that it's SN rated for my gas engines?

 

[Wolf359]

You should probably post more details like the specific car that you have. It may or may not care about that spec. I did see some of that oil and it didn't meet the specs that my Euro car requires so I passed.

 

[Kamele0N]

Its semisyn hydrocracked grp. III synthetic...

Nothing to worry about for your gasser....

http://www.shell.com/motorist/oils-lubri...l-av-5w30.html

PDS: https://www.google.si/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.qualitybearingsonline.com/content/Lubricants/MSDS%2520and%2520TDS%2520PDFs/Shell/Helix%2520HX7%2520Professional%2520AV%25205w30%2520TDS.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjQrbD76J3RAhUWOVAKHQRoCMUQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNHbWunpwbsLpuL7dbXRS6N-oVczog

Acea C3 has hths rating of 3.5 min

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: vronline
I'm assuming all I need to worry about is that it's SN rated for my gas engines?

It may be appropriate, it may be inappropriate. We need to know the vehicle type and what spec if calls for. If you need an A3/B4 oil, you haven't got the ideal choice. The same applies if you need SN/GF-5. If you need ordinary SN (i.e. my G37 calls for SM or better, with the ILSAC part being optional), then you're good to go.

It'll have a bit higher HTHS, and would be great for outdoor power equipment, given that you only have one quart of it. Throw it in the mower or snowblower and it's probably better than anything it saw before.

 

[vronline]

That's what I was thinking actually... I'll use it in my mower for the next change. I don't have a car that specs anything special.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[dlundblad]

I find it interesting that it carries the VW502 approval, but isn't an A3/B4.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

If it's SN, it's SN. Use it with confidence

 

[Kamele0N]

Originally Posted By: dlundblad
I find it interesting that it carries the VW502 approval, but isn't an A3/B4.


Read my shell link... It meets acea A3

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
I find it interesting that it carries the VW502 approval, but isn't an A3/B4.


Read my shell link... It meets acea A3


Which isn't A3/B4...

Clearly, I don't know the difference.

Also, don't assume I didn't read what you posted.

 

[Kamele0N]

A is for gasoline engines.... B is for diesel engines...

 

[dlundblad]

Good info. Thanks.

Still odd though IMO because it is a diesel oil..

 

[BobFout]

While it is marketed for US pre-2009 TDIs, is not a "diesel oil" per-se. I am going to pick some of this up for my GTI.

Here's the US PDS on it. Notice the different ASTM methods and result for flashpoint.

http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/f...V-SAE-5w30.pdf

 

[BobFout]

Compare with Euro Platinum L 5w30 PurePlus. No VAG specs, but has all the rest. Lower pourpoint, better CCS and MRV, better flashpoint.

http://maysshedd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Plat-Euro-L-5w30.pdf

 

[Kamele0N]

Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Good info. Thanks.

Still odd though IMO because it is a diesel oil..



Acea C3 is diesel spec....here in EU it is also common to meet vw 504/507 (more tougher then just C3) but dont know wich parameter is not sufficient to achieve vw standard (noack or ash)

505.01 is mid saps for (diesel) vw PD engines also...

It is decent oil for your gasser anyway

Better then any american API

 

[dlundblad]

Once again, Good info.

Happy New Year too Kam.

Same to you Bob.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: BobFout
While it is marketed for US pre-2009 TDIs, is not a "diesel oil" per-se. I am going to pick some of this up for my GTI.

Shell could stand to learn something from Castrol in this regard, too - naming products. Euro AV is a rather enigmatic name, and tossing VW Diesel onto the sell sheet description doesn't help.

Castrol calls the 5w30 Edge options here 5w30 U.S. (with the black and gold differentiation), 5w30 A3/B4, and 5w30 C3/dexos2. That way, whether I'm looking at the bottle or placing a product order, I know exactly what I'm getting. I don't have to dig up product sheets to figure out what AV and L and other things might mean.