Pending UPS strike...
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That is what I'm hearing is probably going to happen.
Actually, I thought it would be more, but is there anything wrong with that?
I doubt that’s even in the top 100 CEOs salaries.
I think many are in billions such as Teslas, CEO
Either way, who doesn’t have a right to earn whatever they can?
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They are happy, and they are not going on strike
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Agreed. But I do wonder how any human can make more than 1 billion in a year, and there’s another group of men who are at that level. So 19 mil we shop with folks like that at Costco or Wawa. I’ve got hs buddies who earn half of that and they’re not even people that anyone Even knows
Excuse my ignorance but what is 'TPTB"?
You say that like it's a problem or something.
The longer the strike the more time their competitors will have to fill in the gap, or for new entities to emerge.
Nobody is too big to fail. When the airline I worked at failed it had over 50% of the passenger traffic out of our home hub. Even so the next day it was as if nothing happened. UPS won’t be the same but don’t underestimate the capacity of the market to eventually adapt.
Most of the highest paid CEO's have been there a long time and much of their pay comes from Stock options, or they bring innovation, or organization, or something to the party.
What innovative thing has she brought to UPS since she took over in 2019? They ship packages efficiently in brown trucks - just like they did in 2018. Perfect candidate to be replaced by AI - AI could likely find more efficiency improvements
The only part-time employees I heard of are the overnight loaders; they only get worked 3a-7a at my area's UPS center. Their pay and benefits are already pretty good too, starting out is like $20/hour and easily gets up to $80k/year within a few years with full medical and dental after 90 days. With OT, some of those guys are making well over $120k/year, especially during the holiday season. The issue is new drivers don't get "their own" delivery route unless a more senior union member leaves; then everybody under gets 'pushed up.' So if there's not enough packages for that day to create another route, the lowest guys go home. I had a buddy who's coming up on 3 years with UPS and he still hasn't gotten his own route.
So wouldn’t you agree she’s pretty smart to make $19 million a year and do nothing?Most of the highest paid CEO's have been there a long time and much of their pay comes from Stock options, or they bring innovation, or organization, or something to the party.
What innovative thing has she brought to UPS since she took over in 2019? They ship packages efficiently in brown trucks - just like they did in 2018. Perfect candidate to be replaced by AI - AI could likely find more efficiency improvements
We are debating a subject that the full-time UPS employees are going to vote on the contract and pass it. They do understand they are delivery drivers, they make a good salary with wonderful benefits and that is why they stay at UPS versus delivering Domino’s or working for the US post office
Not for the CEO.
I agree.
I will also say if she can't keep them out of a strike, then she will be retired when the dust settles. If she can keep them out of a strike, then $19M was cheap.
You can say the UPS guys are well paid and should be happy, but its supply and demand. Sure, there are plenty of people that want their jobs, but they can't pass the drug test, can't show up on time, have criminal records, or who knows how many other problems. Go try hiring competent staff for anything these days. They have leverage now. Its capitalist for them to use it.
How do you know they are happy ?
I‘m not talking about the full-time drivers making $40 an hour.
Theres some UPS warehouse employees (unloading / loading trucks / sorting boxes) that have been part-time for 14 years (not a mistake) waiting for a full-time driver position. How can they be happy working 20 hours a week with 14 years seniority ?
These are serious questions….
It's too bad there isn't a rule nobody can make more than double the President's salary, mainly to curtail the grown children being paid to play games, whine and kneel.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I’m not sure why seemingly everyone in the thread is ignoring the fact that an agreement has been reached on all points, except for the pay of the part-timers, that is considered a minor point and they fully expect to be voting on a contract next week.
I do agree with the supply and demand of workers, that is the point of contention regarding part-timers as they are paying new part-timers, the same on more than longtime existing part-timers. I think it’s pretty safe to say they will get this point cleared up.
If they’ve been working there for 14 years and not happy, whose fault is that?
When you take a part-time job, you know you were taking a part-time job if in that timeframe you could not find a full-time job someplace else well then obviously somethings wrong with what you’re doing and nobody is responsible for you except for yourself.
It just seems ridiculous to me that some people think someone who willingly seeks employment as a part-time employee for a job that only requires part-time employees should expect more than being a part-time job employment is absolutely their own fault. Gosh, are we now to babysit the adult population and force companies to operate the way someone else thinks they should?
You’re free person do whatever you like and if you don’t like your job, get another one, come on already. Don’t tell me how to run my business go get your own business or get another job.
AFAIK, UPS only hires on drivers from the seasonal drivers; and usually only second time seasonal drivers. If the sorters don't apply for a seasonal driver position or don't pass the "UPS university" driver training, then they won't be chosen.
Also I forgot to add; I believe it takes a full year before a delivery driver is allowed within the Union.
I agree 100%, it’s their fault for staying there for 14 years as a part-timer.
The drivers are happy, part-timers not so happy.
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