P0305 code issue

[Durango]

Scott_Tucker,

Guide to stem clearance??? Well that's far beyond me unless I see with my eyes exactly what you talking about Was this anything the dealership should have noticed before or is this part of a major tune-up?? I only know just the basics of how an engine really works. Either way at least you posting is more positive than the last.

What I do know is that the intake valve is just frozen solid and no chemicals will free it up. So that's why they have to now do a valve job on both sides as the mechanic advises. It includes valve job on both heads and some sort of magna fluxing which I don't know anything about, two timing chains, bolts, gaskets and I guess replacing the bad valve or valves.

I should as he told me two weeks it'll be back in my hands. Wether how much it cost now is water under the bridge. For myself I have seen two mechanics an they both say the compression is bad and that's why my CEL light was activated. In Los Angeles there isn't many mechanics available that can tear apart engines and do this work. If it's decided to keep this truck for the long haul now I'll see what happens down the road. Let's take it one step at a time.

Durango

 

[Scott_Tucker]

Valve guide to valve stem clearance was just a guess as it would have allowed oil past the valve guide and carbon to build up. If it was at the high end of clearance it would have rocked and taken out the seal. Of course, that is just speculation. Whatever caused it is not really important at this point, the important thing as that it gets put together right.

I think both mechanics were correct although I think you did the right thing for yourself financial by bringing it to an independent. I'm sure the dealer would have charged a lot more. This is a simple engine so there shouldn't be any special tools involved.

 

[Durango]

Scott_Tucker,

Thank you for your most intelligent posting. By the end of today I'm sure the heads will be off and sent to the shop tomorrow for the valve job. The real probel will reveal itself when they see it all apart.

Right now you are right both were correct except for how they idid the compression test but the dealership didn't treat me right cuz he was willing to let me drive on what he called was a severe engine damage and allow me to get possibly stranded!

Either case my 01' is out of warranty anyway so in the future these guys will handle my maintance. This is assuming I decide to keep the truck long term. For such a simple engine it is one big headache. I can honestly tell you this is my first Chrysler product ever and my last. I'm more of a GM person but thought Dodge was pretty good.

Durango

 

[Vikas]

Because you mentioned that after a computer reset, your vehicle ran great. If it was a real mechanical problem, it would not come and go. If you had intermittently sticky valve, you have lot more choices than if you have a completely frozen valve.

I assume they are all crooks unless proven otherwise

- Vikas

 

[Scott_Tucker]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Because you mentioned that after a computer reset, your vehicle ran great. If it was a real mechanical problem, it would not come and go. If you had intermittently sticky valve, you have lot more choices than if you have a completely frozen valve.

I assume they are all crooks unless proven otherwise

- Vikas


Let me guess, you're an electrical engineer?

 

[Durango]

Vikas,

I am just one of hundreds of people that are having allot of Chrysler issues throughout the U.S. and Canada. It's just too bad for me I was a part of it. One thing is for sure you not giving anybody anything of real value that can help me nor anyone else. To you every mechanic is a no good crook regardless of the endorsment. Obvious you don't have anything like the Auto Club/AAA This place has been rated by them as good for help.

If your such an expert in automobiles and it's repair why don't you give us your credential to prove it???? Maybe in your state the repair can be done for far less then here in Los Angeles but I'll bet if you lived out here your attitute would change. It's a whole all of wax out here.

I have a better idea....Why don't you have your personal mechanic move/relocate out here in L.A. and I can go to him and quote your name saying he can repair my engine as described for about $1500 bucks??? If he can do a complete valve job on both sides, new bolts and timing gear and reassemble the entire engine and ready for my pickup in around two weeks time then I keep my mouth shut.

You need to chill out and have a beer.

Durango

 

[Vikas]

I hope you had some time to cool down. You were offered many suggestions by quite a few of us. Unfortunately, circumstances prevented you from following them. If taking out your frustration on me helped you in some therapeutic way, I guess I can live with that.

I have enclosed what you said when you first reported the problem. I actually agreed with you then and I still do as far as your second paragraph is concerned. When I pointed it back to you, you just snapped :-( A frozen valve stem would not have let you a "silky smooth engine" or "running fantastic" at *any time*. An intermittently sticking valve stem could have been chemically cleaned.

Anyway, it is your truck and it is your money. Telling me to go search to find other Chrysler owners having the same problem was quite ironic. I have no skin in this game.

Best of luck,
- Vikas

=======WHAT YOU SAID==============================
"Odd thing I noticed was that even myself I knowthat if it's low compression in the cylinder they actualy didn't say if the spark plug was fouled!!!! I did notice that when I drov off the dealership lot the engine was running fine and they reset the "CEL" for me. I then drove my truck for about 50 miles and everything appeard to be fantastic. I drove the truck home with the intent to take it out for dinner hour and then when it was started again the "CEL" reactived again after about 30 seconds.

Here's my reasoning..... If my no 5 cylinder was low on compression then WHY did th engine run so well when it was drove off the delalership lot??? I mean my engine ran silky smooth
=====WHAT YOU SAID=================================

 

[Durango]

Vikas,

Your last posting was very nice and positive directed to my issue. All I started to read from you was that the shop was ripping my off and so the postings from you were starting to get negtive. It doesn't matter right now who's right cz the permission to fix was given almost one week ago and so I'm sure by now the heads are off and the valve job has begun on both sides. As they put it my truck should be back in my hands in about two weeks and that puts it semi close to the holiday jut in time for Thanksgiving.

No matter what or how the mishap occured one thing is present. Some how I may have burnt the valve as they put it. I've been to TWO shops and they both report I lost compression so that was evidence enough.

One thing I'm for sure is...no more Gumout/Regain in my tank!!! I'l going back to Techron form now on. I still believe this all started when I added that bottle cu one week later that's when the engine went belly up.

We can talk more about it when I get the truck back. I feel fortunate to be able to make money to have issues like this. Us Californians/State unemployment is still 12% and so all I have to do is work to make up that money well spent.

Thank you for your postings.

Durango

 

[Burt]

Durango,

Thanks for bearing with us voyeur/interloper types. I think it safe to say that most of us have had a car problem where you wonder "is this it or when will it ever end?" No fun while you are going through it. So many on this site ask for advice and never follow-up top tell us the end result, so I appreciate hearing the outcome for our personal data banks.

Wish someone here had a magic bullet for you, but guess not this time.

Burt

 

[Durango]

Burt,

Thank your for your posting. Regardless of how my issue occured my truck is being repaired and should be back in my driving hands in a couple weeks. That will put it just before Thanksgiving so I can take it out to my anunt and uncle place in Palm Springs for the day so I have some good driving to see how it runs.

A soon as I get it back I'll let you all know the final scoop of more of what they did and find.

Durango

 

[Durango]

Hi guys/gals,

Got my truck back today and everything appearss to work well. I was told the valve was not burnt at all BUT the valve was heavily carbon-up causing the valve not to close sometimes.

They said not to use discount gas anymore as it contributes to the deposit build up which I admit I have used on ocassion. Arco/Costco is toted to be discount gas in their opinion so I'll try and use more Chevron "Techron" allot more often than not.

In addition no more Gumout/Regain as I'm going back to Techron from now on for sure.

Thank you all for your help but story ends here.

Durango

 

[Burt]

alls well that ends well.

 

[Durango]

Originally Posted By: Burt
alls well that ends well.



Burt,

Yes it appear for now the story ends I've been driving the truck for almost a week daily and all appears to start and run well. What's nice to hear was although with the same price the mechanic tossed in a new water pump. In addition he told me to bring it back in 3K to look over the entire engine again and he'll give me a free lube oil and filter. NOW it seems the price was well worth it.

Have a nice holiday everyone!!!

Durango