over 900,000 miles on 99 chev van

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He's a dealer, so no commercial account.



Wait no.. he's uh well. Which is it a $20 or a $35 waste?
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Of course..
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I forgot, 2 starter rebuilds. Those miles were about 50% interstate (24 trips to Florida I think it was, and the other 50% just around town).

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My Dad had a 1989 Nissan Maxima 3.0 v6, religiously changed at 3k, all maint. done when it was needed. He finally sold it in 2003 w/ 496k on it.

I'm serious. The repair on it was 4 alternators, 2 water pumps, A/C compressor and two CV joints.

Supertech oils for the most part and get this, ORANGE CAN FRAMS from the first oil change at 3006 miles.

When he sold it, it was almost up to 1qt every 3k miles.

helluva car.




I don't doubt it. But the main point here imho is the fact that he only changed once every 35,000. That's a big money savings over changing dino every 3000.


 
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Your correct I don't count labor cost. I get on my creeper with a wrench and remove the drain plug. And then get a filter wrench and remove the filter. So my cost for not being lazy is you guessed it. So the numbers mr tim shot were way low which is my point. And your opinion of oil is your opinion. If you would care to share your theory on how the OLM is a bad thing I will listen. Go ahead share your opinion or Amsoil's or whoever you would care to share on how it is bad. I run an approved oil by GM6094 standard and I will also listen to your theory on why no API approval from Amsoil. And please list facts. I have read the articles of Amsoil is too cheap and they would be bound to one formula and could not change every Mobil rail car that pulls up to there storage facility. Thanks for your time.
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I never said the OLM is a bad thing. I only said most people don't go that long on dino. I think it's a good thing. All cars should have them provided they do an adequate job and can truly tell that your oil is depleted w/o being depleted too much.

As for the API deal with Amsoil and Amsoil's quality. Do your own research. I'm not here to educate someone that isn't willing to do their own homework. If your on this forum and don't know these answers, then nothing I say will change that.
Amsoil's quality is probably documented better than any other oil on the market. The answers to your questions on this are very easily found if your willing to take the time and look.

Great that you don't pay someone to change your oil. Nether do I. The difference? I only have to change once a year and am able to enjoy more free time because of it. (or just get other projects done around the house)
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He's a dealer, so no commercial account.



Wait no.. he's uh well. Which is it a $20 or a $35 waste?
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I guess if you consider $30 (not 35) a year ( very small cost of doing business) to sell a great product with tons of support to be a waste, then O.K.
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I have read hundreds of UOA's with average results from a premium priced product.
As an education to you I ask your ZO number.
The price 30 or 35 to sell oil?
When Walmart charges you to get in to buy oil that is when it's just silly.
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That oil would have thickened to a #50 for the last part of the 35,000 miles of each interval, and #40 for at least half, using about 3% more gas overall. 900,000 miles, at 18 mpg would use 50,000 gallons of gas. The thickened oil made it use 1500 extra gallons of gas over that time. Where is the savings?
 
Just where did you get the info on the what visc the oil would be at a given point?

I really don't know how you can determine what an individuals oil would be like w/o doing a uoa on it
 
The viscosity rising would have depended on the engine's treatment of the oil. There have been several UOAs showing the SL formulations thickening to 40 & 50 weights, but before that, the thickening was never an issue. At least not that I noticed.

Also, thickening does not ALWAYS yield a decrease in gas mileage.
 
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So how did that signature get added to my posts? I didn't do that. I know they are site sponsors, but I'm a dealer too! Just too new to be sponsoring a site right now. Need more cash flow!




The signature got added because you are a dealer, you've broadcast that you're a dealer, and you put that you're a dealer in your profile.

Since you've chosen to deactivate the signature, your status on the board is now Read Only.
 
If your a former dealer, then you have me confused. I don't understand why you would ask all these questions if you know all the answers. If you don't like Amsoil, then don't use it. No skin off my back.

I did a fair amount of research prior to becoming a dealer and specifically searched for any bad press on the company and until now the only people I found that had anything bad to say were people that had never used it.

And an opinion from someone that has never used it doesn't mean much to me.

I've also been running a booth at a local track and have had several people comment (regular customers)how fantastic the products are. And again alot of opinions from people that have never used it.

So again, if you don't like it, don't use it. But you won't change my mind.

I really don't understand your cynicism.
 
I honestly believe it. My father used to own 1988 Astro Van. He got read of it at about 360,000.00 miles.
The engine was good as well as Auto transmission. The only thing I did to it is to install external oil coolers on engine and transmission. I used dino oil because every seal was leaking in engine, but it did not burn oil.
The reason he got read of it is because housing for starter got broken and it would cost more to fix it than Van worth. Loved that VAN.
Nice memories.
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