Outsourcing while still in Country ?

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Current affairs excerpt on tonight, and it made me think of the drone "pilots" in the middle east.

Mining Companies are making out large in the world's biggest quarry (Australia), as they dig up vast deposits of iron ore and bauxite, to be shipped to other places for handling and refining (that bit gives me the thorough's, we should be processing here rather than sending iron ore and coking coal O/S)...

Anyway, because the mines are way out back, 50C at times, the wages are phenomenal.

Market forces mean that a truck driver/plant operator working fly in/fly out bunkhouse can earn $250k a year, asset managers $300k, with a house thrown in...market forces, it's hot, dry (low humidity, and most mine sites are dry as well), remote, months without seeing family...market forces.

Now the mines, the most profitable companies in the country are outsourcing these jobs...but to the cities.

Having remote control mining machines (my cousin showed me some remote control stuff in a gold mine 15 years ago, to keep operators out of unstable geology...they stayed in the safe zone, and joysticked the truck under the stope), they can employ "truck drivers" in casual dress 1,000km away to drive the trucks and machinery, making the whole business "more efficient".

Ultimately, will only need refuelers and mechanics and breakdown teams on the mine sites...won't need a site manager, if all of the decisions are made off site.

If they can move the driving jobs to the cities today, where's the future ?

Who's to say that the mining machines digging up vast quantities of Oz aren't remote controlled from Malaysia or India ?

How much of a leap is it that an item could be "made" in Aus, or the U.S., with a majority labour component e.g. machinery operations being out of country ?
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
.....Who's to say that the mining machines digging up vast quantities of Oz aren't remote controlled from Malaysia or India ?

How much of a leap is it that an item could be "made" in Aus, or the U.S., with a majority labour component e.g. machinery operations being out of country ?
If it's good enough for x-ray interpretation, this isn't exactly a huge leap. Will probably happen sooner than we think.
 
Could they legally operate a machine in Australia if they weren't in the country?
What about liability if something goes wrong?
But seriously, there are many jobs today that could possibly be done remotely.
Hey, I could do remote snow removal, graveyard shift, while lazing on a beach in a more pleasant latitude and time zone.
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Over the last 12 years, I've seen engineers in other countries able to log into systems to diagnose plant problems, progress into engineers in other countries being able to log in, diagnose, and tune systems in real time....to people in another state logging in to operate plant, and only ring the guys on site when there's an issue that needs a man on the ground.

It's not a big leap to foreign operations of an Oz plant in it's entirety.

As to what happens in the inevitable man on site meets machine operated by an overseas operative, once the Collateral damage occurs, it will be court case after court case to decide the precedence...one step closer to the inevitable world governance ?
 
Work at the mines is being outsourced overseas at the moment anyway - several people in this town work in Australian mines, and fly back home off shift. Guys who work at the mines here earn more than twice I do....they go to Aust and earn more than twice what they got here.
 
Yeah, fly in fly out, and a heap of money is the model at the moment.

The point of the thread is that the mines are working to make "autonomous" machines, and to have machines and systems controlled from remote locations to avoid the fly in/out costs
 
If we ever develop the moon or deep sea or deep bore . Autonomous control of robots would be the safest way to do it.
 
Autonomous robots will need to be controlled lest they be too autonomous. But you are right . It was a poor choice of words. :oops
 
I see it both ways, it is possible to keep jobs like these in high cost and comfortable area with automation and remote access, and it is also possible to pay more to get people to work in harsh environment.

Fundamentally, it is much easier for company to pay someone closer to the expertise to remote control big expensive equipment that can be botched and cost far more to fix. We've seen farming death due to GPS driven tractor (running over farmers working alongside), and they are now converted to remote controlled instead.

On the other hand, jobs like process engineer that would have been outsourced to Taiwan was moved back to the US as remote control because the closer distance to R&D and vendor support, making the work force in Taiwan maintenance and support only.

Welcome to the new workplace, we'll see a lot more of these especially in harsh environment and labor intensive works.
 
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