Anyone got a home made pain reliever for Osteoarthritis.....
Osteoarthritis Remedies
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My friend Gordon swears by CBD oil. He gets it out of California though, so ymmv with internet sourced stuff. Most internet sources for CBD are hemp based, and not from marijuana. CBD itself isn't psychoactive, and most hemp is very low/missing thc anyway.
Taking turmeric in conjunction with other stuff like cod liver oil and pain relievers can help, but do some research and remember that turmeric is a blood thinner as well...
Yes, keep moving. I have it in my shoulder and the only real relief is to keep exercising my shoulder.
I can tell when I've been off for a week. I start to get pain in that shoulder.
When I hit the gym again, things are better.
I can tell when I've been off for a week. I start to get pain in that shoulder.
When I hit the gym again, things are better.
Fish Oil, I get mine from Costco , It took about 4 mos aches and pain disappeared .
Will try the fish oil, we are already doing the turmeric, but its early yet for any significant pain relief
Do you drink diet pop?
As a distance runner we took a lot of this stuff. We even made it for ourselves. It's not used much in the medical industry because it's cheap, easy to make and can't be patented. Also it takes a while for it to start working. You don't get a big rush like you do with some other drugs. Doctors don't get follow on business like strokes, blood clots and other cash flow generators.
Originally Posted By: RichardS
My friend Gordon swears by CBD oil. He gets it out of California though, so ymmv with internet sourced stuff. Most internet sources for CBD are hemp based, and not from marijuana. CBD itself isn't psychoactive, and most hemp is very low/missing thc anyway.
http://apothecanna.com/collections/extra-strength/products/extra-strength-pain-creme
This one is Marijuana based and it works.
My wife's hands hurt so bad it was tough to sleep.
Now she sleeps all night with very little pain.
I asked her to rate the pain from 1 to 10. She said 10.
I asked her to rate the pain after rubbing the cream on. She said 2.
She applies it once in the morning and before bed.
Its not cheap but a little go's a long way.
It works with in 15 minutes of the first application. No wait time for it to work.
My friend Gordon swears by CBD oil. He gets it out of California though, so ymmv with internet sourced stuff. Most internet sources for CBD are hemp based, and not from marijuana. CBD itself isn't psychoactive, and most hemp is very low/missing thc anyway.
http://apothecanna.com/collections/extra-strength/products/extra-strength-pain-creme
This one is Marijuana based and it works.
My wife's hands hurt so bad it was tough to sleep.
Now she sleeps all night with very little pain.
I asked her to rate the pain from 1 to 10. She said 10.
I asked her to rate the pain after rubbing the cream on. She said 2.
She applies it once in the morning and before bed.
Its not cheap but a little go's a long way.
It works with in 15 minutes of the first application. No wait time for it to work.
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
As a distance runner we took a lot of this stuff. We even made it for ourselves. It's not used much in the medical industry because it's cheap, easy to make and can't be patented. Also it takes a while for it to start working. You don't get a big rush like you do with some other drugs. Doctors don't get follow on business like strokes, blood clots and other cash flow generators.
will check this out,,thanks
As a distance runner we took a lot of this stuff. We even made it for ourselves. It's not used much in the medical industry because it's cheap, easy to make and can't be patented. Also it takes a while for it to start working. You don't get a big rush like you do with some other drugs. Doctors don't get follow on business like strokes, blood clots and other cash flow generators.
will check this out,,thanks
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
As a distance runner we took a lot of this stuff. We even made it for ourselves. It's not used much in the medical industry because it's cheap, easy to make and can't be patented. Also it takes a while for it to start working. You don't get a big rush like you do with some other drugs. Doctors don't get follow on business like strokes, blood clots and other cash flow generators.
will check this out,,thanks
I take a small amount of bromelain (it helps other things absorb) with turmeric and cod liver oil in the morning...
The problem with turmeric is that it is more of a preventative rather an an active anti-inflammatory, but works well in conjunction with other things and exercise......
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
As a distance runner we took a lot of this stuff. We even made it for ourselves. It's not used much in the medical industry because it's cheap, easy to make and can't be patented. Also it takes a while for it to start working. You don't get a big rush like you do with some other drugs. Doctors don't get follow on business like strokes, blood clots and other cash flow generators.
will check this out,,thanks
I take a small amount of bromelain (it helps other things absorb) with turmeric and cod liver oil in the morning...
The problem with turmeric is that it is more of a preventative rather an an active anti-inflammatory, but works well in conjunction with other things and exercise......
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
This isn't true. I agree that activity is important, but inflammation is a sign of active, ongoing (albeit very slow) joint destruction. Simply just doing exercise might help but it can also lead to more inflammation as well and faster destruction of the joint if one is not careful...
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
This isn't true. I agree that activity is important, but inflammation is a sign of active, ongoing (albeit very slow) joint destruction. Simply just doing exercise might help but it can also lead to more inflammation as well and faster destruction of the joint if one is not careful...
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
This isn't true. I agree that activity is important, but inflammation is a sign of active, ongoing (albeit very slow) joint destruction. Simply just doing exercise might help but it can also lead to more inflammation as well and faster destruction of the joint if one is not careful...
What's not true? Are you saying don't pay attention to pain, don't try to eliminate pain by not doing things that cause pain or that all the people that get relief from bromelain are wrong and they should be taking prescription or recreational drugs. Or are you saying that taking pills that cover up pain is good enough?
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
This isn't true. I agree that activity is important, but inflammation is a sign of active, ongoing (albeit very slow) joint destruction. Simply just doing exercise might help but it can also lead to more inflammation as well and faster destruction of the joint if one is not careful...
What's not true? Are you saying don't pay attention to pain, don't try to eliminate pain by not doing things that cause pain or that all the people that get relief from bromelain are wrong and they should be taking prescription or recreational drugs. Or are you saying that taking pills that cover up pain is good enough?
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
This isn't true. I agree that activity is important, but inflammation is a sign of active, ongoing (albeit very slow) joint destruction. Simply just doing exercise might help but it can also lead to more inflammation as well and faster destruction of the joint if one is not careful...
What's not true? Are you saying don't pay attention to pain, don't try to eliminate pain by not doing things that cause pain or that all the people that get relief from bromelain are wrong and they should be taking prescription or recreational drugs. Or are you saying that taking pills that cover up pain is good enough?
I'm saying that there are drugs that do not "cover up pain" and interdict the process of inflammation short circuiting it. Even NSAIDs do not just cover up pain, they do reduce inflammation and swelling, but are not always preferable due to their problems with liver function. Also, just doing "exercise" can be helpful, but in some instances can exacerbate joint damage by putting more pressure on joints with swollen tissues...
I guess I mean one size doesn't fit all and medication is necessary for some people and DMARDS do not just "mask" problems.
I also take bromelain, BTW along with turmeric first thing in the AM...
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
CourierDriver, just make sure you're patient and are willing to work at curbing the inflammation to reduce the pain instead of taking a drug to cover it up.
Look for ways to relieve the problem because covering up the pain might lead you to do things you would otherwise avoid. Pain is usually there for a reason.
This isn't true. I agree that activity is important, but inflammation is a sign of active, ongoing (albeit very slow) joint destruction. Simply just doing exercise might help but it can also lead to more inflammation as well and faster destruction of the joint if one is not careful...
What's not true? Are you saying don't pay attention to pain, don't try to eliminate pain by not doing things that cause pain or that all the people that get relief from bromelain are wrong and they should be taking prescription or recreational drugs. Or are you saying that taking pills that cover up pain is good enough?
I'm saying that there are drugs that do not "cover up pain" and interdict the process of inflammation short circuiting it. Even NSAIDs do not just cover up pain, they do reduce inflammation and swelling, but are not always preferable due to their problems with liver function. Also, just doing "exercise" can be helpful, but in some instances can exacerbate joint damage by putting more pressure on joints with swollen tissues...
I guess I mean one size doesn't fit all and medication is necessary for some people and DMARDS do not just "mask" problems.
I also take bromelain, BTW along with turmeric first thing in the AM...
I've got CMT type muscular dystrophy, and while not working the last 10 years I decided to study all the vitamin and mineral stuff on myself.
I'm down to believing nearly everything goes back to nutritional bone health which also keeps blood vessel and joints healthy.
Food: eat lots of salmon, and don't sweat farmed, just buy from good grocery store
Eat lots green olives and olive oil. For frying use peanut or coconut oil.
Eat brocolli and other greens for calcium , too.
Eat dried cherries and walnuts.
Supplements for me are: Magnesium malate or magtein (nearly everyone is deficient in mag)
Vitamin D-3 5000 units/day (near upper limit)
Vitamin K2 mk7 200 mcg/day
Notice I don't take calcium which can clog arteries. I take vit d-3 and fermented vit super k2 mk7 which puts any calcium onto bones and out of blood vessels. I had a calcium heart scan which was not to bad, but in a few years will try to prove I get lower score.
Whatever you do don't take statin drugs. Every DR tries to get me and my wife on them and we know several people with bad joints from them and even dementia (cholestrol is necessary for brain to work).
With muscle problem already, I'm not supposed to take statins, and one Dr said just a little bit. No, any ammount wll mess up my muscles.
Hope something here for someone. The mag helps me wake up feeling wonderful, and the vit d-3 and vit K2 mk7 should keep calcium on bone instead of in muscles calcium hypercalcemia.
I'm down to believing nearly everything goes back to nutritional bone health which also keeps blood vessel and joints healthy.
Food: eat lots of salmon, and don't sweat farmed, just buy from good grocery store
Eat lots green olives and olive oil. For frying use peanut or coconut oil.
Eat brocolli and other greens for calcium , too.
Eat dried cherries and walnuts.
Supplements for me are: Magnesium malate or magtein (nearly everyone is deficient in mag)
Vitamin D-3 5000 units/day (near upper limit)
Vitamin K2 mk7 200 mcg/day
Notice I don't take calcium which can clog arteries. I take vit d-3 and fermented vit super k2 mk7 which puts any calcium onto bones and out of blood vessels. I had a calcium heart scan which was not to bad, but in a few years will try to prove I get lower score.
Whatever you do don't take statin drugs. Every DR tries to get me and my wife on them and we know several people with bad joints from them and even dementia (cholestrol is necessary for brain to work).
With muscle problem already, I'm not supposed to take statins, and one Dr said just a little bit. No, any ammount wll mess up my muscles.
Hope something here for someone. The mag helps me wake up feeling wonderful, and the vit d-3 and vit K2 mk7 should keep calcium on bone instead of in muscles calcium hypercalcemia.
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I thought tumeric was great for awhile, but also take 1000mg vit c with rose hips which is also good anti oxident.
Tumeric is really drying, but funny thing is magnesium malate will moisturize body so much you might need to cut back.
Imagine that there's no need for any dry mouth medicine, just take enough magnesium, and don't even think that magnesium oxide at Walmart will work. Maybe for white color in paint.
I used mag malate Source naturals from Amazon for years, but prefer a newer magtein that helps get mag through brain blood barrier.
When you get the right dose of mag it's a good natural beta blocker for heart, and you can tell it works to make you feel better.
Tumeric is really drying, but funny thing is magnesium malate will moisturize body so much you might need to cut back.
Imagine that there's no need for any dry mouth medicine, just take enough magnesium, and don't even think that magnesium oxide at Walmart will work. Maybe for white color in paint.
I used mag malate Source naturals from Amazon for years, but prefer a newer magtein that helps get mag through brain blood barrier.
When you get the right dose of mag it's a good natural beta blocker for heart, and you can tell it works to make you feel better.
I've never had an issue with turmeric being "drying." I think the only issue is that it is not a very active anti-inflammatory and is more of a preventative so it doesn't work like taking aspirin. It does have a whole host of other health benefits though, like supporting liver function and possibly being an antiviral...
I took nearly everything with a claim including curcumin (concentrated tumeric)for 2 years.
Indian woman make claims, and take tumeric for its drying effect.
I think it has some anti cancer benefits, etc., but magnesium has studies saying there were less people with pancreatic cancer, and less diabetes.
Magnesium is the one thing out there nutritionally that I can feel.
Lots of people are deficient in mag and vit d-3.
Now for pain relief, I had some migraines that laid me out, and 4 motrin would fix it one hour later.
There was a miracle cream with cannibis oil earlier in the thread that looks good.
Indian woman make claims, and take tumeric for its drying effect.
I think it has some anti cancer benefits, etc., but magnesium has studies saying there were less people with pancreatic cancer, and less diabetes.
Magnesium is the one thing out there nutritionally that I can feel.
Lots of people are deficient in mag and vit d-3.
Now for pain relief, I had some migraines that laid me out, and 4 motrin would fix it one hour later.
There was a miracle cream with cannibis oil earlier in the thread that looks good.
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