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https://www.nlgi.org/about-us/high-performance-multiuse-grease/
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Choose NLGI grade and thickener type according to your intended use and possible miscibility concerns.
https://www.centerforqa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/HPM-Booklet-compressed.pdf.pdf
I happen to like Mobilgrease XHP 222 as "general purpose" grease , pleased to see it on the certified list.
--> selct "Certification" drop down -->HPM
Choose NLGI grade and thickener type according to your intended use and possible miscibility concerns.
https://www.centerforqa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/HPM-Booklet-compressed.pdf.pdf
I happen to like Mobilgrease XHP 222 as "general purpose" grease , pleased to see it on the certified list.
Mystik JT6 HT
Mystik JT6 Syn Blend
Rykon / Rykon HD
Black Pearl
There’s my basic go-to list for greases. If you need moly, get the moly versions of the above. Rykon M3 / M5. Mystik Construction grease (actually just launched 2 weeks ago).
But for an all in one. You don’t need moly.
I’m generally a big fan of calcium greases. But lithium is still the largest market share of greases. So that’s my normal list depending on someone’s price point. From least expensive to most expensive.
The most important thing about grease is to actually use it. Years ago at the auto dealer I worked at guys would come demanding greaseable u-joints whenever they needed to be changed. No problem, but they would be back in 8 months complaining that we sold them junk. Run the truck up on the hoist and it is painfully obvious that they were never greased.
I have a large fleet customer that every year buys a pallet of #2 multipurpose grease from me. They use it on anything that has a grease nipple and they never have failures related to greasing.
I have a large fleet customer that every year buys a pallet of #2 multipurpose grease from me. They use it on anything that has a grease nipple and they never have failures related to greasing.
This is a terrible idea!
Things like ball joints and other low speed heavy load and high shock things need an EP grease with a high moly percentage (at least 5 percent) if you want them to last. On the other hand high speed rolling element bearings like wheel bearings can be destroyed by such a grease (especially if lightly loaded or run without enough preload) as it will cause skidding of the rollers. This skidding will result in flat spotting and eventually premature bearing failure. At a minimum you want two different types of grease for an automotive type application.
Now sure there are plenty of “multipurpose” greases on the market that will be ok wheel bearing greases. However they are horrible chassis greases. Better than no grease or contaminated grease but far from ideal for these extreme pressure and shock type applications.
Things like ball joints and other low speed heavy load and high shock things need an EP grease with a high moly percentage (at least 5 percent) if you want them to last. On the other hand high speed rolling element bearings like wheel bearings can be destroyed by such a grease (especially if lightly loaded or run without enough preload) as it will cause skidding of the rollers. This skidding will result in flat spotting and eventually premature bearing failure. At a minimum you want two different types of grease for an automotive type application.
Now sure there are plenty of “multipurpose” greases on the market that will be ok wheel bearing greases. However they are horrible chassis greases. Better than no grease or contaminated grease but far from ideal for these extreme pressure and shock type applications.
As I mentioned in my post on the first page, Red Line CV-2 will cover all these applications very well. From the data sheet:
https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/files/tech/cv-2_grease_prod_info.pdf
"Contains an organic moly for chassis lubrication and high temp/high speed industrial equipment"
"Red Line CV-2 Grease contains a red moly compound which is a superior lubricant to black moly disulfide lubricants."
https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/files/tech/cv-2_grease_prod_info.pdf
"Contains an organic moly for chassis lubrication and high temp/high speed industrial equipment"
"Red Line CV-2 Grease contains a red moly compound which is a superior lubricant to black moly disulfide lubricants."
I use Amsoil grease with moly for the sliding bearing applications and because its easy to get NGLI #1 for the winter. Otherwise I use Texas Refinery 880 Crown and Chassis #2 for everything. If I were to have one grease, that's it. I've never used other TR products, but I'm certain 880 is the best grease I've encountered. From mowers to excavators, its performed perfectly. Why do I say that:
- I've never had it separate. Plenty of other greases have separated and left me with a leaky gun.
- Stays in place better than other greases that tend to roll out of a pinned joint.
- Seems to pump and prime easier and I've never had it leak past the seals in my grease gun.
- Its got good extreme pressure specs and stays in place.
- With regular greasing and a lifetime of 880 use, my father has an old front-end loader with over 30k hours of use with original pins an bushings and very little wear. The daily greasing was the key, but I still think the 880 was a factor.
- Pretty red with gold flakes
- I've never had it separate. Plenty of other greases have separated and left me with a leaky gun.
- Stays in place better than other greases that tend to roll out of a pinned joint.
- Seems to pump and prime easier and I've never had it leak past the seals in my grease gun.
- Its got good extreme pressure specs and stays in place.
- With regular greasing and a lifetime of 880 use, my father has an old front-end loader with over 30k hours of use with original pins an bushings and very little wear. The daily greasing was the key, but I still think the 880 was a factor.
- Pretty red with gold flakes
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