Oil stored outside-what effect?

[Patman]

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hey Patman,
i am going with this oil in my Honda ,and i bought it at my local dealer for $4.06 a litre ,this oil in my v6 seems to be excellent ,let us know how it goes for you

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Does the Honda dealer sell it as Petro Canada Supreme 5w20 or do the bottles say Honda 5w20?

 

[Patman]

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Only PC I see is at their bulk distributors. They don't even list one around the 'sauga area, so it looks like Patman will have to take a drive

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What about the Loblaw's Superstores? I've heard some people mention in the past that they found Petro Canada oil there. I've got one near my house, but have never been inside it. I will have to remedy that!

 

[Patman]

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My garage goes from 40 degrees to 90 degrees and I've used oil that was in the stash for years with no problems.

My used oil analysis, long engine life show me that this idea that stored oils only last xx months is bull.

Patman, no worries. Use it when your ready and you'll be fine.

Bill

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Now that's the kind of real world experience I want to hear, thanks Bill!

 

[PT1]

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My garage goes from 40 degrees to 90 degrees and I've used oil that was in the stash for years with no problems.

My used oil analysis, long engine life show me that this idea that stored oils only last xx months is bull.

Patman, no worries. Use it when your ready and you'll be fine.

Bill

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Now that's the kind of real world experience I want to hear, thanks Bill!

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Yeah but my garage goes from 10 degrees to 100 degrees so oil gets fried sitting on the shelf. I'm sure Canada is no exception unless you have a heated & air conditioned garage. My basement temp range is 65F to 75F all year.

perfect for oil storage.

 

[blackhondaccord]

i should have clarified that the oil is Honda 5w20 which is in fact petrocanada oil to Honda specs (if that anything significant ? ) ,yes all i did is ask the parts manager for a discount off the list price

 

[BobXRC]

If they go to the trouble of putting an expiration date on Pepsi, you'd think they'd put one on oil.

Think of all the people that would dispose of good oil.

BTW - expired Pepsi tastes likes Sams Cola...at least to me

 

[Triple_Se7en]

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BTW - expired Pepsi tastes likes Sams Cola...at least to me

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Who knows?... old Pepsi may be in that Sam's Cola.

 

[Syntec-Man]

i put 5w-20 castrol syntec in my civic it worked really well on a 10k run

 

[ThirdeYe]

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My garage goes from 40 degrees to 90 degrees and I've used oil that was in the stash for years with no problems.

My used oil analysis, long engine life show me that this idea that stored oils only last xx months is bull.

Patman, no worries. Use it when your ready and you'll be fine.

Bill

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Now that's the kind of real world experience I want to hear, thanks Bill!

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Yeah but my garage goes from 10 degrees to 100 degrees so oil gets fried sitting on the shelf. I'm sure Canada is no exception unless you have a heated & air conditioned garage. My basement temp range is 65F to 75F all year.

perfect for oil storage.

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I store mine in the basement too

 

[SubLGT]

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additive solubility will go down the colder the oil is held at (would not think a a problem)I'd shake the bottle up pour it in and drive a few miles to warm it.
Or pour in then look into bottle is stuff on bottom then most likley some VII or detergent.
bruce

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About 15-20 years ago I had several cases of Mobil 1 stored outside in a shed for about 2 years. Lowest temps were around 40 degF. Each bottle did have a white precipitate in it, and Mobil tech support told me it was additives coming out of solution.

 

[bdai]

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What about the Loblaw's Superstores? I've heard some people mention in the past that they found Petro Canada oil there. I've got one near my house, but have never been inside it. I will have to remedy that!

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I went over to the Superstore today, and I didn't see any PC there. No price tag for PC either, so it wasn't just sold out. I did see some Esso XD-3, along with normal Esso, Mobil 1, Pennzoil, Quaker State, and some no-name stuff that said it was made by "Canada Turbo" out of Calgary at the back of the bottle.

 

[Patman]

I forgot to mention I checked my local Loblaw's Superstore on Sunday and didn't find PC there either. The only 5w20s they had were Pennzoil, Quaker State and Esso. The Esso was only $3.19 per liter, the other two were over $5! They had a lot of really old oil there too (strangely enough since this store only opened last year) such as SJ formula Mobil 1, and SJ formula Esso synthetic 5w30. They also had Pennzoil 10w30 Truck & SUV (something I've never seen anywhere else here) as well as a ton of Pennzoil 5w50 synthetic (not Platinum, but the older formula)

So if anyone happens to find a place that sells Petro Canada oils in Mississauga for cheaper than the gas stations, let me know. I also wonder if each gas station can set their own price or are the prices the same everywhere?

The more I look at the specs on this Petro Canada 5w20, the more I'm impressed! It's cold weather specs are better than some synthetic 5w20s! (group 3 synthetics anyhow)

 

[bdai]

Your closest distributor (other than a special Superstore that carries it or something) is probably the one in Rexdale - 1741 Albion Road. It's about half an hour away from my parents' place at Dundas and Hurontario.

 

[Patman]

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Your closest distributor (other than a special Superstore that carries it or something) is probably the one in Rexdale - 1741 Albion Road. It's about half an hour away from my parents' place at Dundas and Hurontario.

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But wouldn't a "distributor" only be selling it in large quantities? Or would they sell 4 bottles to anyone off the street?

 

[bdai]

I think the smallest quantity they sell is a case of 12 1-L bottles.

 

[Lonnie]

I'm late to the game but we had a contract to build gen sets for the Navy and there was an interesting oil storage requirement. They used 1 Gallon containers of Chevron oil that were plastic. The oil had to pass being stored in a freezer for 18 months and pass an oil analysis. There was a little bit of separation but as the oil warmed up at room temperature they were allowed to shake it up before taking a sample. The guy in the lab said he saw no significant separation and the oil passed. It was then run in a generator at different loads but mostly loaded for 100 hours and passed that, too. There were no differences of note in the 100 hours tests between the stored oil and a regular sample not kept in the freezer. One comment was made by one of the lab guys that the stored oil smelled different during the first 10 or 15 minutes of the test run. I have no idea what that means.

 

[rcy]

There's a bulk dealer in Burlington somewhere, if that's any closer to Mississauga for you. Problem is, I can't remember who it is - a tech from Petro-Canada told me about it when I was asking him about the Honda 0w20 (which is Idemitsu btw - all other Honda oils in Canada are Petro-Canada oils). He actually told me that PC makes a 0w20, but it didn't meet some spec that Honda wanted..

*edit* found it... http://www.online.petro-canada.ca/bulkplants/Bulk-Details.asp?l=E&site_id=04061

 

[oilyriser]

Did you say 0w-20? Would you be able to find out the product code for it? There's a place I know that sells PC oils to truckers, and I might be able to convince the guy to order some for me.

 

[bdai]

There's no Supreme 0W-20. The Supreme 5W-20 is MOSP52. The only 0W- is the synthetic Arctic, and it's a 0W-30. That product code is MAXSP03.