Oil recommendation for Volvo?

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The PS filter is a good idea. Flush the fluid (use CHF-11s or CHF-202, never ATF) in the rack and put a magnefine in the return line from the rack to the reservoir. The rack is pricey, and it requires dropping the subframe to R&R it. A giant PITA. Both my cars have a magnefine in the return line, and they both have original racks.

Also, if you get a PS pump noise (soft whine), it's likely the reservoir. There is a little hose that directs fluid back into the reservoir. It can fall off, causing aeration of the fluid, and subsequent whine. Both my cars have replacement reservoirs.

Both my cars have an external transmission cooler and get regular fluid changes. I posted pictures and discussion about the cooler, filter, and thermostat that I added to the T5 on Volovxc.com here: Transmission discussion

I rebuilt the entire front end on both cars, balljoints, strut mounts, strut bearings, struts, bushings, tie rods and rear shocks, too. Bilsteins on the T5. Lower control arm bushings are particularly perishable on this chassis. 80K tops, sometimes as little as 30K. Use only Lemforder or Volvo parts. Strut mounts and bushings are a common failure point, too. Bilsteins are firm but nice. IPD sway bars are awesome and make the car formidable in corners, particularly with good tires.

A rebuild with IPD bars, Bilsteins and all new front end parts will make a huge difference in how it handles. If you've got 16" wheels, then 17" wheels with 45-series tires will help steering response and cornering grip. You can go 18" and 40-series, but rough roads can kill those sidewalls and rims easily. 17" is a good compromise.

ECU reflash is good for about 30HP. An R-model exhaust manifold is good for about 10. A new downpipe adds a bit more. The factory airbox isn't restrictive, so skip the CAI, they just add noise. Make certain you do a "stage zero" refresh of everything before any mods go on. New plugs, filters, etc. use only iridium plugs. OE Volvo plugs are among the best.

Measure your front brakes. Chances are, you've got 280mm rotors. Upgrading to 305mm rotors is easy: new rotors, new pads, and the caliper mounting brackets from a T5 model that move your stock caliper to a new location and allow the bigger rotors. The 305mm rotors fit under 16" wheels. It's a modest, but noticeable, increase in braking power. Rock Auto sells those brackets for about $20 each. One per side. If you're already buying rotors, it's a cheap upgrade.
 
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
But they didn't then...and none of the possibilities (ignorance, stupidity, willful deception) would paint them in a positive way...

A Volvo dealership shouldn't even have bulk conventional hanging around, unless they do a lot of oil changes for non-Volvo people. They shouldn't be stocking anything less robust than an A5/B5, and even then, use that with some sense.

Similarly, why a VW/Audi dealership had ILSAC stuff hanging around, I'll never know. The preferred viscosity then was 15w40 in the first place. It's not a Chevy dealership. When the dealers can't follow proper maintenance, it sure doesn't give the owners much of a chance.
 
There's no Volvo dealer here, but they do have a service centre, and it's a Mobil 1 Lube Express, if that means anything. I don't let anyone change my oil, regardless of what I drive, so they can stock whatever the heck they want.
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Dealers sell and service used cars, so they keep bulk and "universal" fluids in stock. It's common practice.

Volvo will stock Castrol Professional A5/B5 5w30 for the newer stuff.
 
Mobil1 0W40, Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (GTL) and Total Quartz 9K Energy 5w40 perform very well in my application.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
There's no Volvo dealer here, but they do have a service centre, and it's a Mobil 1 Lube Express, if that means anything. I don't let anyone change my oil, regardless of what I drive, so they can stock whatever the heck they want.
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Still no dealer eh?! I recall when I left Regina in the mid 2000's that was the only "authorized Volvo" service center available for those still driving them...just off Broad street by the old Sears call center.

With the skyrocketing property values in the 2000's, I thought they'd consider having another dealer since there's so many other high end vehicles around. I guess the dealer in Saskatoon would have to suffice.
 
Yes, that's still the same place, as a matter of fact. I don't drive there too often, but if I do go to the Infiniti dealer for something, it's always within view. I always remembered the old Volvo truck dealer when I was a kid, though. There still are enough Volvos driving around. I guess if I notice them, that's pretty good, considering they don't stand out like the used to.

I'm surprised one of the other dealers just grabbed the Volvo rights here. There are enough dealers of all sorts. One place still has the Lada name, though they haven't sold a car in decades, and just do independent mechanic work.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: zeng
How would a non-A3B3/4 say, SN/SM oil cause sludging in a Volvo calling for A3B4, just curious ?
Btw, I use only A3B4 oils in all my Japanese engines calling for API Sx ..... believing it's stouter ..... but don't really know why ?
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Because Volvo dealers in the US used bulk Castrol 5w30 conventional (probably SL and not ACEA rated) that didn't meet those specs.

Gee, non-spec oil causing problems? Who would've thought?


Correct me if I am wrong, but they didn't even spec an A3/B4 oil so in the dealer's eyes, they weren't doing a thing wrong.

It still baffles me they had such a poor oil spec on these turbo charged cars. The factory recommended OCI was 7.5k with an API SL oil (5w30 or 10w30 depending on the ambient temperature) so technically just a conventional was good enough.. Not that upping it to a plain synthetic really helps according to some of those scary PCV photos over on the XC forum. Anyways, I don't think the S60 in my signature will ever see a 7.5k OCI since a lot of cleaning still seems to be going on according to the crud that collects in the filter. Hey, at least it's a hard solid now and not sludge.
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(I sure wish I took a photo of the first filter I pulled from her car. 3 pleats were packed with sludge. Basically black Vaseline.) I started using Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 Fall 2014 then Mobil 1 0w40 Spring 2015 and haven't used anything else since. No oil additives, cleaners etc.. Just Mobil 1 0w40 and short OCI's.

OP: The only other oil I'd consider would be some xxw30 HDEO like Rotella T5. Lately, I've been getting all of my Mobil 1 with rebates so it's actually cheaper going the A3/B4 synthetic route. Aside from house brand synthetics, there's really no cost difference between a 5w30 and a 0w40 so there's really no reason not to use what is best for your engine. Rock Auto has great deals on Mann and Mahle filters at ~$4 too.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Also, if you get a PS pump noise (soft whine), it's likely the reservoir. There is a little hose that directs fluid back into the reservoir. It can fall off, causing aeration of the fluid, and subsequent whine. Both my cars have replacement reservoirs.


Does the new reservoir's lid not leak like the factory one does? I try to keep it topped off at the low side of the good area for this reason.

Very interesting about the ECU flash too.
 
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Correct me if I am wrong, but they didn't even spec an A3/B4 oil so in the dealer's eyes, they weren't doing a thing wrong.

On my Audi, for sure, that was the case. It certainly wasn't an ideal oil spec. Although, there is blame to go with people doing the service, too, since the preferred grade was a 15w40, and that would generally get you an HDEO, being more robust than PCMOs of the time. And, if an OCI seems to optimistic, it probably is. But, that's back on the OEM. Not everyone is a BITOGer running used oil analysis to ensure the OEM isn't dreaming.
 
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