Oil + filter questions with civic & accord

[randomhero439]

I have 2 cars i need advice on. Lets start with the first: 2004 Honda Accord V6 6-speed manual with 95k miles. Modifications include a CAI and exhaust.

OCI is spec for 7500miles normal, and 3750miles severe. So far ive been using Pennzoil Ultra and a Purolator Classic filter every 3750miles.. Does not burn any. Current fill is Pennzoil Ultra with a Bosch D+ filter and I plan to go 7500 miles. My issue is running a Bosch D+ or Purolator Pureone. Some points i would like to make before you make a decision.

1. I autocross regularly in the summer, usually 40+ runs.
2. I read that the flow is restricted on a Pureone. Is this restrictive flow gonna hurt my engine at sustained high RPM? (I used the classic due to its $3 and has a high flow rate)
3. The price of D+ is 2x the Pureone
4. Should i maintain my 3750 OCI with the Classic filter. Or would i be safe to autocross with a 7500 OCI and a top tier filter?
5. Could i do a combination of the two above?

Onto my 2nd car. I picked up a 2002 Civic LX 5-speed with 170k miles on it. Owner said he changed the oil with conventional every 3-5k miles. I used this car to deliver pizzas regularly (college student lol) and for winter. The OCI is spec for 10k normal and 5k severe.

I filled it with Mobil 1 and a Purolator Classic filter, with the plan for 5000 mile OCI. Burns about a quart every 2000 miles, but recently hasnt been burning any (Could be the Mobil 1 + Honda equals burn). Im assuming this burn is due to the initial switch to synthetic. Could i do a Pennzoil Ultra with a Bosch D+ or Pureone for 10k miles with the delivery driving?

 

[bourne]

Personally if they were my vehicles, I would run the following :

Accord : Pennzoil Platinum 5w20 + Pureone in Winters / Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 + Classic in summers. Winter, obviously to give you the best start up flow and you do not need high temp protection. Summer, Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 and Maxlife 5w30 Full Synthetic ( available at meijer ) are both excellent oils with high HTHS rating which is what you need for high rpm protection when auto crossing.

Civic : Pennzoil Platinum 5w20/ Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w20 year round with a Pureone filter for 5k ~ 7k ( verify this via used oil analysis ) mile oci. Pizza delivery involves a lot of stop go and idling. This is considered as severe service by the auto manufacturers. You want an oil that will flow good in those varying conditions.

Just my 2 cents. Hope this helps.

 

[randomhero439]

Originally Posted By: bourne

Accord : Pennzoil Platinum 5w20 + Pureone in Winters / Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 + Classic in summers. Winter, obviously to give you the best start up flow and you do not need high temp protection. Summer, Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 and Maxlife 5w30 Full Synthetic ( available at meijer ) are both excellent oils with high HTHS rating which is what you need for high rpm protection when auto crossing.



With the Accord. Should i do 3750 OCI during autocross season and 7500 OCI during the winter?

 

[jjcom]

I think this would be case where a used oil analysis would be needed to figure out how far you can go. Autocross and delivery can both be pretty rough conditions for a car to handle.

The 04 Honda, I would say run the oil to 5k miles or so and run a used oil analysis to see where you stand. Pennzoil Ultra is an excellent product and under normal, easy conditions should be completely ok for a 7.5k OCI, but with that Autocross thrown in, I don't know if it would hold up to a run like that. I would think the PureOne would be ok, I haven't heard of any lack of oil failure while using one.

The 02 Honda, it might be safer to split the different go for 7500 and see where you stand on it too. If you get a lot of highway otherwise on the car, then it should be completely ok, but if most of the miles are stop and go, I could see the oil being due a change at that point.

 

[tommygunn]

The PureOne filter is awesome. I love the texture grip. If you can find it, Purolator makes a Synthetic oil filter (a blue can with the texture grip). It's about $10 at Pep Boys. But the PureOne is still a great filter though.

That filter and Ultra should last you the 10k.

How many miles do you drive in a year total?

 

[randomhero439]

Originally Posted By: tommygunn
The PureOne filter is awesome. I love the texture grip. If you can find it, Purolator makes a Synthetic oil filter (a blue can with the texture grip). It's about $10 at Pep Boys. But the PureOne is still a great filter though.

That filter and Ultra should last you the 10k.

How many miles do you drive in a year total?


Both cars get about 10k/yr.

 

[bourne]

If you want, you can do a shorter run in summer ( really depends on how many miles you put on your car over the year and how its used when not autocrossing ).

Also give Synpower 5w30 a shot in summer. Especially for a 5k or less oci. Produces IMPRESSIVE wear numbers over a short oci.

In winter oil has to deal with condensation and longer warm up time. If you drive less than 15k a year , I would change oil based on season&activity vs time/miles.

The oil choices are almost polar opposite, so your summer oil wont flow well in winter and your winter oil wont protect enough during your summer autocross sessions. If it was me, I would change over to the summer oil a week before your first event. And then I would switch back to the thinner 5w20 like end of october/beginning of november. Just dont leave your winter oil in there for 10k+ miles while you wait for summer to roll around the corner.

 

[T_CUDA]

Ultra and a pure-one both cars every 7500. I was a repair manager for a large Armored truck company and our E350 vans with the V10s ran 7 days a week hard I mean really hard everyday and I was lucky to get those trucks in for 10k mile PMs with Shell conv. 5w20 and a wix filter. In 2yrs they put over 220k miles on those trucks and no motor issue at all. Trust me you will not run that car as hard as they did(wasn't there truck they didn't care).

 

[randomhero439]

For the Accord:
5w-20 w/ Pureone every 7500 miles normally.
5w30 w/ Pureone every 3750 miles during the autocross season.

For the Civic:
5w30 w/ Pureone every 7500

Does this sound like a good plan?

 

[randomhero439]

Bump, anyone else got any info?