Oil Consumption

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2018 Camry I4, hardly any measurable loss in 5000 miles, coming up on 60,000 miles. 2019 Mini Countryman JCW, hardly any measurable loss in 5000 miles, and it's run more spirited (WOT at least a few times per tankful), coming up on 25,000 miles. 2014 Accord I4, uses about one quart per OCI which is about 8000-9000 miles. it has over 100,000 miles on it, and it's used oil at this rate since it was brand new...no change.
 
260,000 mi Honda J30A1
No measurable oil use per 1000 mi

Guys this isn't helping the guys that own the 2018 5.0 Ford feel any better.
 
Hi all .I worked as a Auto technican for 30 yrs.If a car is Maintained from New using normal oil intervals In Canada 6000km no more,your car should not consume hardly any oil.If its a sports car pushing rpms or a pickup towing excessive loads yes a bit of oil ,maybe a quart between oil changes yes. I worked at Honda and around 2009 we had oil consumption issues in the 2.4 accords.Hondas fix was to try and brain wash customers that if you burned a liter of oil for 1500km it was normal, anything over that they would open a warranty claim.All BS.it was a design flaw that Honda would not own up too.i have had 24 vehicles ranging from domestic to Korean and Japanese,cars should not burn hardly any oil when using proper oils and right oil intervals.This new nainteance minder and getting 8000 to 13000km o your oil is no good for the engine,I have seen and witised it all.
6,000km is a pretty short interval. I've routinely done double that with a quality synthetic and had spotless engines. My old 5.0L pics are on here somewhere. OLM OCI for our RAM and Jeep hover right around that mileage as well. Most recent in the Jeep was ~11,500.

I had consumption on our Expedition using only one oil: AMSOIL Signature Series 0w30. Mobil 1 0w30 didn't get consumed, nor did Motul 0w-30, or any of the other heavier oils I ran in it (5w-40, 0w-40, 5w30...etc). It used 1L in 12,000Km on Mobil 1 5w-20 IIRC.

There are guys on here that run significantly longer still as 12,000km is only around 7,500 miles and there are guys running 10,000 miles+.
 
My perspective is if we have so many engines that burn practically no oil, then we shouldn't have any that do. We know how to do it now. If some lousy company or engineer can't pull it off, they should just buy the other guy's engine that's properly engineered for their jalopy.
 
My perspective is if we have so many engines that burn practically no oil, then we shouldn't have any that do. We know how to do it now. If some lousy company or engineer can't pull it off, they should just buy the other guy's engine that's properly engineered for their jalopy.


I will venture to say that most of the engines burning oil are due to the owner not keeping an eye on the oil level and the lack of maintenance. We hear of so many stories of people not changing their oil or someone pulling the dipstick to find the level either way down or not even reading on the dipstick.
 
My perspective is if we have so many engines that burn practically no oil, then we shouldn't have any that do. We know how to do it now. If some lousy company or engineer can't pull it off, they should just buy the other guy's engine that's properly engineered for their jalopy.
It depends on the design, materials, desired power outputs, etc. Engine designs are being pushed harder than ever to reach several goals at once for things like for better mpg, more power, longevity, etc.

Usually one will out balance the other. Otherwise everyone would just run old Toyota 22re engines with a power output of 110hp 😂

You would really want all cars running around with the same generic engines putting out the same ratings? Boringgggg
 
6,000km is a pretty short interval. I've routinely done double that with a quality synthetic and had spotless engines. My old 5.0L pics are on here somewhere. OLM OCI for our RAM and Jeep hover right around that mileage as well. Most recent in the Jeep was ~11,500.

I had consumption on our Expedition using only one oil: AMSOIL Signature Series 0w30. Mobil 1 0w30 didn't get consumed, nor did Motul 0w-30, or any of the other heavier oils I ran in it (5w-40, 0w-40, 5w30...etc). It used 1L in 12,000Km on Mobil 1 5w-20 IIRC.

There are guys on here that run significantly longer still as 12,000km is only around 7,500 miles and there are guys running 10,000 miles+.
Yes I here you, with synthetic oils you get better protection and longer intervals,but be careful,there are alot of engines burning oil because of a design flaw.The Hondas in 2008 to 2012 the 2.4 could not get 6000 to 8000km and the oil light would come on,once your down that low damage is occurring.Thats why I tell people use a good quality oil and change it out around 6000km.The long intervals on some of these poor engine designed flaws runs the engine to low on oil and damage occurs.With the price of synthetic today,I don't believe it out ways conventional quality oil if changed on shorter intervals..Simply the average xars should not burn oil.Thise Hondas were burning oil around 40 to 50000km,it was horrible.shame on Honda.
 
Yes I here you, with synthetic oils you get better protection and longer intervals,but be careful,there are alot of engines burning oil because of a design flaw.The Hondas in 2008 to 2012 the 2.4 could not get 6000 to 8000km and the oil light would come on,once your down that low damage is occurring.Thats why I tell people use a good quality oil and change it out around 6000km.The long intervals on some of these poor engine designed flaws runs the engine to low on oil and damage occurs.With the price of synthetic today,I don't believe it out ways conventional quality oil if changed on shorter intervals..Simply the average xars should not burn oil.Thise Hondas were burning oil around 40 to 50000km,it was horrible.shame on Honda.
Of course the onus is on the owner to check the oil, but you are quite right in that they won't, and then won't take responsibility when something happens.
 
I will venture to say that most of the engines burning oil are due to the owner not keeping an eye on the oil level and the lack of maintenance. We hear of so many stories of people not changing their oil or someone pulling the dipstick to find the level either way down or not even reading on the dipstick.
Unless you have a GM Ecotec 2.4, which is known to make oil disappear rapidly despite regular oil changes and checking it often. Could be why we got the letter from GM admitting that the piston rings are faulty.
 
Isn't that why they have a dipstick? It's supposed to be checked every fillup according to the manuals on my cars.
No disrespect for a woman,but they dont check oil,and if you check it every fill up,you dont have much faith in your product,for the most part cars should not consume oil just gas.
 
I will venture to say that most of the engines burning oil are due to the owner not keeping an eye on the oil level and the lack of maintenance. We hear of so many stories of people not changing their oil or someone pulling the dipstick to find the level either way down or not even reading on the dipstick.
if the engine didn't burn oil, why would you need to keep an eye on the oil level? :unsure:
 
It depends on the design, materials, desired power outputs, etc. Engine designs are being pushed harder than ever to reach several goals at once for things like for better mpg, more power, longevity, etc.

Usually one will out balance the other. Otherwise everyone would just run old Toyota 22re engines with a power output of 110hp 😂

You would really want all cars running around with the same generic engines putting out the same ratings? Boringgggg
I here you,but the engines in my opinion are not all getting better,some of the older generations civics got better fuel mileages out there ,back around 1996 -2000.I also had a 1991 Chev Surburban 5.7 350 tbi injection (two injectors)that got 19 miles to a gallon fully loaded on a 700km trip,Today 30 yrs latter our big v8s are not very much better. 17-24 mpg Believe it or not manufactures play with engine oil weights to help with gas mileage less friction and so on.,nuts.Now producing worthless turbo engines on everyday consumer cars that all usually typically fail,its all crazy.I visit garages here in Eastern Canada every year with my Job and the techs will tell you or show you wants failing.People have to do there home work on purchasing vehicles today,still alot of bad designs and issues out there.
 
Yeah when you compare mpg in 1995 and see what goes for 'normal' today something is up... or down. 🧑‍🎓
 
Yeah when you compare mpg in 1995 and see what goes for 'normal' today something is up... or down. 🧑‍🎓
Yup for sure ,u just go back to late 90s and check it out,some of the eco boost fords are doing maybe 3 mpg better,but all in all,no big changes.Honda just in the last 5yrs or so are producing turbos in some of there models,at idle customers are complaining of no heat,not enough friction with the low weight oil.The Service Manger that I no well show me 12 volt heaters that came from honda for customers to plug in when there cars are warming up with remote start here in Eastern Canada ain't that just crazy
 
My 2006 Camry with a 3MZ V6 hasn't used any oil yet

Currently at ~184k

Last almost 9k OCI, it was .5 qt or so low, but I attribute this to the weeping valve cover gaskets and cam/crank seals

The only stuff I've seen in person use oil is:

An old 100k+ 6G72 Montero Sport with hardened valve stem seals and general seepage

A Gen 2 Prius 1NZ in taxi service with 300k+, I assumed a failing HG and worn low tension rings, as it consumed both coolant and oil, yet no leaks🤔

Oh, and several pre 2010 Toyota 2AZ 2.4 I4s

One or two got the 10y/150k dealer rebuild

The others would either unalive themselves due to neglect, or get 1 quart poured in when the idle would get rough or the oil pressure light would come on at idle 😮
 
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if the engine didn't burn oil, why would you need to keep an eye on the oil level? :unsure:
This is why I check my oil only once a month. :sneaky:

And the result is always the same:
No oil consumed in my two Nissan SUVs; one Xterra with a 4.0L V6, 163,xxx miles and one Pathfinder with a 5.6L V8, 175,xxx miles.
This goes in summer and high speed driving as well.

I do however use only xw-30 oils on the thickest end of the range or xw-40 oils.
Change intervals right around 5000 miles of normal driving or if an unusually high %age of hiway driving, up to 7500 miles

Cheers.

PS: Overseas my Xterra even refused to consume measurable amounts of oil with Shell helix Ultra 5w-40.
Even when my driving regularly included running 90-100 mph for 2/3rds+ of a tank of fuel, in summertime.
 
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