oil consumption normal on a 5.7 hemi?

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got an 09 challenger r/t 6-speed with 2650 miles on her. changed the oil to mobil 5w-20 full synthetic at 1000 miles. never consumed a bit of oil up until the last couple of hundred miles i checked and i was about half way down between "add" and "full" which constitutes a half quart. i have an oil catch can installed after the first oil change and opened that up for the first time yesterday and it was about a quarter of the way full. not exactly a half quart.

so where did that oil go? the car never blows blue smoke. the owners manual says some is normal for the first couple thousand miles for break in. but why has it not consumed up until now? the only thing i can think of is i have been pushing it a bit more recently, short peel outs, bouncing off the rev limiter 2 or 3 times by accident, some high speed decelerations etc. most of the time its just normal driving.

could that account for that much burning off? this is my first new car and i'm used to my older used cars that i buy that is pretty much a given, is gonna use oil, but a new car?

someone please enlighten me and set my mind at ease.

thanks!
 
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It's a Hemi...usually the harder an engine is run the greater the oil consumption will be. Have you checked with the dealer or other hemi owners?
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
It's a Hemi...usually the harder an engine is run the greater the oil consumption will be. Have you checked with the dealer or other hemi owners?


i have and i get mixed answers. i wanted to check with the oil experts tho :)
 
There is also a possibly that the engine is still breaking in. I'd keep a watchful eye on it, and see if it gets better. I would notify the dealer, in any event.
 
My 5.7 only uses oil when I pull a trailer. But it's very little, like a 1/2 quart every 3K. Otherwise, it never uses oil.

Personally, I wouldn't get concerned yet. Give it to 5 or 7K and if consumption is still happening, try a 5/30 (if it's a non-MDS engine, which it may be, in that case stay with 5/20). Or try a dino 5/20 instead of a syn.
 
in my dads truck i found it to be normal for about the first 5-10k miles. after that then the rings seat and all is good, it still burns just not very much maybe a quart over 6k miles.
 
my 03 hemi uses none in 3000 mile oil changes and its always hookes to a trailer. my 09 challenger rt use none and i run the [censored] out of it, i use service pro 5-30 in truck and mobil one in challenger
 
thanks guys for the input...again getting mixed answers. dont know what to think now :) now i gotta wait till spring to see if she's gonna get better...just put the car away for the winter.

i'm hoping its just still break in process and the combo that i've been beatin' on it here and there. i guess time will tell...
 
An oil catch can is a device that is placed between the PCV and the intake. It takes the oil vapor in the blow-by, and "catches" it, preventing it from going into the intake where it can gunk up the intake.
Once every oil change, just dump out the dirty oil from the catch can.
 
To the OP - NO oil consumption issues are NOT common to/normal in the 5.7L HEMI. Yes, obviously it does happen but it is not something super common as you see with other motors known to be prone to it. Your spirited driving may be contributing to it as well( that is not meant nasty - I would do the same
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A question? Did you follow the owner's manual's break in proceedure? If you really got on the engine( high RPM's )before it was fully broken in you may have this problem for the life of the vehicle. The break in for the Challenger is more aggressive than most BUT it does still warn to be careful about being over aggressive in low gear. Maybe you got into it a bit too much too soon?
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ENGINE BREAK-IN RECOMMENDATIONS: (Page 66 2009 Challenger Owner's Manual)
A long break-in period is not required for the drivetrain(engine, transmission, and rear axle) in your new vehicle.Drive moderately during the first 500 mi (800 km). After the initial 60 mi (100 km), speeds up to 50 or 55 mph (80 or 90 km/h) are desirable. While cruising, brief full-throttle acceleration within the limits of local traffic laws contributes to a good break-in. However, wide-open throttle acceleration in low gear can be detrimental and should be avoided.


I believe you said your Challenger is an R/T so that means you have the 5.7L not the 6.1L found in the SRT-8. I have had 2 5.7L Rams( 2004 and now my 2008 ). Neither has ever used a drop of oil. I run Royal Purple synthetic( ran 5W-30 in the 04 and now 5W-20 in the 08 ). Your 09, despite not having MDS( I believe that is right - I am pretty sure it is not on the R/T Challenger 5.7L ), still calls for 5W-20 so that is what you should run. You might be ok with a 5W-30 but I wouldn't personally do it. On 08 and earlier 5.7L's, without MDS, you can use 5W-30 no problem. In 09 they did a remodel so to speak on the 5.7L so not sure how a 5W-30 would do? Probably ok although not warranty acceptable.

I have been on the Dodge forums since the 5.7L 1st came out( notice my screen name
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It may simply be because so many people use it there are more chances for it to be used in a car that uses oil? Just seems to me however that Mobil 1 oil(s) produces usage complaints far more often than any other oil. More than some other oils combined actually. Most of those I see complaining about oil usage in the 5.7L are running Mobil 1 as well. Coincedence?
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Again, not a bash on it just an observation. Perhaps a change to a different brand of oil such as Kendal GT1 Full synthetic, Valvoline Synpower, or Penzoil Platinum would help? All come in 5W-20, are pretty easy to find, meet your warranty requirements, and are all excellent oils. Might be worth a shot.

It is also possible your engine was not assembled as well as others. You may have got a Mexican plant worker with a Monday AM Tequila hangover assembly job? You never know. Might just be bad luck for you. One thing is for sure though, if it were my car, I would make sure it is documented that it is using oil( I would require a copy of said documentation if not listed on your repair order ). As your Challenger sits in the garage over the winter your warranty deadline keeps on rolling. Obviously it is new enough that you are good waiting until spring BUT be sure you get it documented as early as possible.

Really nice cars. I am very envious of you even with the issue. Good luck with it.
 
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thanks for the response nhhemi. i pretty much babied it until 1000 miles then i changed to the full synthetic. and you are right that it doesn not have MDS since mine is equipped with the 6 speed manual.

what i dont understand is why it would start using oil now and not from the get go? i'm thinking its gotta be from my more spirited driving over the last couple months. just wanted to get some other takes on it.

also about it being assembled by a hungover plant worker :), the car never blows any blue smoke and is as quiet as a mouse on startups.

so...my spirited driving and the fact that i took it easy over the 500 mile recommendation from the manual...you think thats a likely cause?

thanks again
 
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Give it several thousand more miles before condemning it.
Also, when testing/checking oil consumption, we have to check it consistently. Meaning the same car position and preferably after an overnight sit.
If it is still using oil like this at 8-10,000, I would not be happy with a new car.
The oil in the catch can is not only oil, but blow by gasses that condensed, and water.
 
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thanks for the response nhhemi. i pretty much babied it until 1000 miles then i changed to the full synthetic. and you are right that it doesn not have MDS since mine is equipped with the 6 speed manual.

what i dont understand is why it would start using oil now and not from the get go? i'm thinking its gotta be from my more spirited driving over the last couple months. just wanted to get some other takes on it.

also about it being assembled by a hungover plant worker :), the car never blows any blue smoke and is as quiet as a mouse on startups.

so...my spirited driving and the fact that i took it easy over the 500 mile recommendation from the manual...you think thats a likely cause?

thanks again


I really don't know what to say other than what I did. Maybe you babying it for 1000 miles and now using it hard is the cause behind it? I was always told with a new engine you planned on using hard to do it from day one( within reason - the manual's break in procedure is a good one ). Just don't know. I would also seriously consider trying a different brand of oil just to see if it matters.

Bottom line is get it documented at the dealer as soon as possible. If it continues don;t take "that is normal usage" as a blow off to avoid fixing it. Total [censored]. The 5.7L is not an engine that uses a lot of oil. Not even a little.

Best of luck
 
That much consumption is more than I've experienced in my hemi jeep. 1 qt per 6000 miles seems about right as someone already posted. Overall oil consumption has not been an issue with the hemi. Also, I've used nothing but dino oil in my hemi and it runs fine (67000miles). Also, your driving habits may have a lot to do with your consumption.
 
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